Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'algorithm': 0.04; 'inspired': 0.05; 'root': 0.05; 'lines,': 0.07; 'calculating': 0.09; 'measure': 0.09; 'shifting': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; '6:00': 0.16; 'interest,': 0.16; 'order)': 0.16; 'processors': 0.16; 'top-post': 0.16; 'true:': 0.16; 'valueerror': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'module': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'preferred': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'integer': 0.24; 'stephen': 0.24; 'tend': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; '(for': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'raise': 0.29; 'moved': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'actual': 0.34; 'operations': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'doubt': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'positive': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'matter': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'situation': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'close': 0.67; '20,': 0.68; 'optimized': 0.68; 'received:74.208': 0.68; 'square': 0.74; 'ideas.': 0.84; 'remarks': 0.84; 'timing.': 0.84; 'imagine': 0.93 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 10:43:09 -0500 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt References: <54543787$0$13005$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:RjlwZWnMB/cKgi4uEbhxU5S/7kfxFjgEmPf1RdtKkcs y5MMsqBw0lAUY9Z1qwCY4m2uFOd5qK3gCoc/jqTAd7J/6Mojx8 2n+e+m2TAj+QGSswsS/nt5YPE9Pkw0eOWKU1sJyLO/jX7vgC3/ fkdJY0oUWF6TsLs5GUPadXtSyJHXNGk9ovzkJeNo7DTdnOvFeG USOrlw9N+2dHO5AwqXuGiad8e2Uo0AklgDKrHl6P72RYwZcARu tpkcL/hFmaiN5JdhxOm1TiShPGI3wjNjzkH0fsyCnbwAN2Bn/f dJE4KZZ49EL8Tx2Ubu7qgsVkIP55PcWrIk2O5HXmk9PfsrvJqa a7vFxMRRwRgMnUcg16yQ= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 68 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1416757395 news.xs4all.nl 2906 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54533 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!bete-des-vosges.org!feed.ac-versailles.fr!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81377 On 11/21/2014 03:15 AM, Stephen Tucker wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Serhiy Storchaka > wrote: > >> On 01.11.14 03:29, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >>> There is an algorithm for calculating the integer square root of any >>> positive integer using only integer operations: >>> >> >> Here is my optimized implementation inspired by Christian's ideas. >> >> .... >> def isqrt(n): >> if n < 0: >> raise ValueError >> if n == 0: >> return 0 >> if n <= C1: >> return int(math.sqrt(n)) >> if n <= C2: >> x = int(math.sqrt(n)) >> else: >> b = (n.bit_length() - C3) // 2 >> x = int(math.sqrt(n >> (2 * b))) << b >> y = (x + n // x) // 2 >> if y == x: >> return x >> while True: >> x = y >> y = (x + n // x) // 2 >> if y >= x: >> return x >> >> > Serhiy, > > This looks very good indeed. As a matter of interest, is there any > particular reason you have used 2*b instead of b+b? Might b+b be faster > than b*2? > > Also, in various lines, you use //2. Would >>1 be quicker? On reflection, > perhaps you have had to use //2 because >>1 cannot be used in those > situations. > > Stephen Tucker. > (Please don't top-post here. I moved your remarks after the code you're referencing, so that others may see it in the preferred order) It's been probably two decades since I've been in a programming situation where that kind of difference mattered. In Python in particular, the actual arithmetic or bit shifting is probably only one part in a hundred, and in modern processors all these operations tend to be very close in timing. You're welcome to use the timeit module to try to measure it. But I doubt it makes a difference of more than one part in a thousand. And in some situations I can imagine b+b to be slower than 2*b. (For example, if b were global) -- DaveA