Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'plenty': 0.07; 'follows.': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'sentence': 0.09; 'subject:2.7': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'missed': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; '(it': 0.16; '23,': 0.16; '999': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'trying': 0.19; 'command': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'subject:time': 0.33; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'advice': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'anybody': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'subject:one': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'area': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'product.': 0.38; 'tired': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'slowly': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'subject:more': 0.64; 'note:': 0.66; '8bit%:82': 0.84; '2013,': 0.91; 'tricks.': 0.91; 'dirty': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:38:16 +0000 References: <1416491999.209592.193345213.3A6FF9A4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87ppch8zvx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87k32p6ow8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <871towik8j.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <5470134c$0$12986$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <877fyn68m1.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <547094a6$0$12984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87y4r348uf.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87mw7j3z2r.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-211-241.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 54 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1416699516 news.xs4all.nl 2858 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41624 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81306 On 22/11/2014 22:31, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> My favourite "find thousand and one ways to make Python crashing or >> failing." but I don't recall a single bug report in the last two years from >> anybody regarding problems with the FSR, or have I missed something? > > What you've missed is the grammar of the sentence you've (partially) > quoted. Clearly he is seeking to make Python, and he is crashing or > failing. My advice to him: Stop trying to build complex software while > in command of a car. > > ChrisA > What? The entire message follows. I think you are not understanding the point very well. Py32 and Qt derivative + plenty of dirty tricks. (It will probably not be rendered correctly.) Write something like this (an interactive interpreter) in Py32 and Py33 and see what happens: >>> print(999) 999 >>> sys.version '3.2.5 (default, May 15 2013, 23:06:03) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]' >>> # note the emoji and the private use area (plane 15) >>> a = 'abc\u00e9\u0153\u20ac\u1e9e\U0001f300\udb80\udc00z' >>> print(a) abc需ẞ🌀󰀀z >>> Note: it can be "cut/copied/pasted" with a MS product. jmf PS I have to recognized, I'm slowly getting tired to find thousand and one ways to make Python crashing or failing. That is a standard Windows build. He is again conflating problems with using the Windows command line for a given code page with the FSR. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence