Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'mouse': 0.07; 'socket': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; '22,': 0.09; 'spec': 0.09; 'subject:2.7': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'constructs': 0.16; 'display,': 0.16; 'electric': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'in-memory': 0.16; 'should.': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'ui,': 0.16; 'unicode,': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'file,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'byte': 0.24; 'string,': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'visible': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'rest': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'unix': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'usually': 0.31; 'terms.': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'interface': 0.32; 'subject:time': 0.33; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'display': 0.35; 'common': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:one': 0.36; 'nov': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'hear': 0.63; 'subject:more': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'cut': 0.74; 'power': 0.76; 'analog': 0.84; 'diesel': 0.84; 'magnetic': 0.84; 'sets,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=aed6atYjCzw/NOrzh2dy2FX7aft7VmUe5UMHoMeUDpw=; b=pr+iihxL6Ggut5EPjOS29icAGTtfBty0K/oI5o28+z713ncflnTbxFDASWh6cgWNAw P0U5H1Q9GD+HE7hTasNT5LWmGhGyzHhPZfC2KzNtdgTDkquT0jJ1wFUkrQ1Pp/G/KtsL i07Kj0nVIX5km0lqlg9uCwsu+0vzZQAORgJwptCADzlFsWegjR9jzT3LbJxRPlcSrSz9 vCuWb9rgqfm9vUAGmSC+Gr2rnHiW0NFQy6aX9w6tGRUnNYdNFljx2sy4pBRCN4uAlcIc 3NMhLUPdAw00sC+7d1iskAbgd0rCLCRSwHLHITN28Sk4rTZ2jAJynYscMT31g0jHHI5D MsCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.152.104 with SMTP id ux8mr5022742igb.14.1416588772362; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:52:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <871towik8j.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <1416491999.209592.193345213.3A6FF9A4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87ppch8zvx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87k32p6ow8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <871towik8j.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 03:52:52 +1100 Subject: Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1416588774 news.xs4all.nl 2857 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49784 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81226 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > No need to hide Unicode, but talking about a > > Unicode string > > is like talking about an > > electronic computer > > visible spectrum display > > mouse user interface > > ethernet socket > > magnetic file > > electric power supply > > The language spec calls the things just "strings," as it should. I'm not sure what you mean here, because the adjectives all cut out other common constructs - a byte string, an analog computer, an IR or UV display, a blind-compatible UI, a Unix domain socket, an in-memory file, and a diesel power supply. Okay, I'm pushing it with the last one (they're usually called gen sets, not power supplies), and I don't often hear people talk about "magnetic files", but the rest are definitely valid comparison/contrast terms. ChrisA