Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'that?': 0.05; '21,': 0.07; '(unicode': 0.09; 'abstraction': 0.09; 'strings.': 0.09; 'subject:2.7': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'unicode?': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'text,': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'subject:time': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'subject:one': 0.36; 'represent': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'unable': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'subject:more': 0.64; '5:36': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=DJOoHbF5e3w/ls62M+aoUPXzY32RAJYzR5EQwOn07PM=; b=pZ3GXX5si2P8WQdvFWRxpm2NvEn4JHWb7qJuAKvIFt4SSHDsz3flv/l/V4iwq3UZ4d 7RKLUAwAGvpmRDuff8Rm9vv7yWhtRgQpWVYMWKVwWMl75xywHPt8/wT82YTDoRlNi1Fn 1IFJM/65JFsMSvyV82PojtC75XRa1BrFqxtEx0mvv1GhglAozvP3YDwRFmLaYQx7Wz2q XY6Rh4QB+0K7qJG8MJwFCmBac0qDDCY9NK4Wgg4kkCbTWTzU9FV40va6fF9NW7nFOlYD Z2W6ziJWv2CkpSU4j1Wme6xwCRhRirDOBr4NWWpX+fpXisfDZikDMy/4ksxoNrMHJUxa +xcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.79.135 with SMTP id j7mr13633350igx.14.1416553329731; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:02:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k32p6ow8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <1416491999.209592.193345213.3A6FF9A4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87ppch8zvx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87k32p6ow8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:02:09 +1100 Subject: Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1416553337 news.xs4all.nl 2897 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34432 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!bete-des-vosges.org!feed.ac-versailles.fr!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81174 On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> I don't really like it how Unicode is equated with text, or even >>> character strings. >> [...] >> Do you have actual text that you're unable to represent in Unicode? > > Not my point at all. > > I'm saying equating an abstract data type (string) with its > representation (Unicode vector) is bad taste. What about "sequence of Unicode code points" is "representation"? What is your abstraction over that? ChrisA