Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'example:': 0.03; 'string': 0.09; '%s"': 0.09; 'explicitely': 0.09; 'formatting': 0.09; 'gettext': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:2.7': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'translation': 0.12; '__future__': 0.16; 'codec': 0.16; 'logger': 0.16; 'non-ascii': 0.16; 'n\xc3\xb6tig': 0.16; 'ordinal': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'stuff.': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'properly': 0.19; 'translated': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'byte': 0.24; 'convenient': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'header': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'logging': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'generally': 0.29; 'asked': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; '"",': 0.31; 'python2.7': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; 'subject:time': 0.33; 'problem': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'subject:one': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'application': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'subject:more': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'silently': 0.84; 'contents.': 0.91; 'whereas': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:35:17 +0100 Organization: None References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p57bd927e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.13.3 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 58 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1416486934 news.xs4all.nl 2850 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33134 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81071 Francis Moreau wrote: > Hello, > > My application is using gettext module to do the translation > stuff. Translated messages are unicode on both python 2 and > 3 (with python2.7 I had to explicitely asked for unicode). > > A problem arises when formatting those messages before logging > them. For example: > > log.debug("%s: %s" % (header, _("will return an unicode string"))) This is only problematic if header is a non-ascii bytestring. > Indeed on python2.7, "%s: %s" is 'str' whereas _() returns > unicode. > > My question is: how should this be fixed properly ? > > A simple solution would be to force all strings passed to the > logger to be unicode: > > log.debug(u"%s: %s" % ...) > > and more generally force all string in my code to be unicode by > using the 'u' prefix. > > or is there a proper solution ? You don't need to change an all-ascii bytestring to unicode. Lo and behold: >>> "%s %s" % (u"üblich", u"ähnlich") u'\xfcblich \xe4hnlich' >>> u"%s %s" % (u"üblich", u"ähnlich") u'\xfcblich \xe4hnlich' Only non-ascii bytestrings mean trouble, either noisy >>> u"%s nötig %s" % (u"üblich", "ähnlich") Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) >>> "%s nötig %s" % (u"üblich", u"ähnlich") Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 4: ordinal not in range(128) or silently until you have to decipher the logfile contents. It's best to stay away from them, and the from __future__ unicode_literals that Chris mentionend is a convenient way to achieve that.