Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.058 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'great.': 0.07; 'agrees': 0.09; 'url:blog': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'heads.': 0.16; 'inclined': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'resumes': 0.24; 'fairly': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; '[1]': 0.29; 'especially': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'program,': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; '14,': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'massive': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'skip:* 10': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'subject:. ': 0.67; 'jobs': 0.68; 'skill': 0.68; '100': 0.79; 'noise': 0.84; 'subject:know': 0.84; 'subject:read': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=wioueRUhU1K9OvFsUvVrpf+M72Gf30xpTCGHraSJ8fI=; b=nLAIHt8uGtw7Wm/2I/wFzwH1jEn2jcwX8UXRx4C13xYlfuGVa2O6kn33O4tDl81mu/ +rqshnTRwao5jaOSfc7SIggI8svn4MMYZ7ODrkT8+D1vBnL5sxP1GgzcydWlupv53737 7tJbxgbLwOo8/I6gYWfwmK3fqJX2qt4BMNtFv7bCHgkNiGdUgB7k09iGEjkruJSObh+p tR+HcmUX3rJ96SlpTEsI5jAzz4wgQrN+Qnt1bmjE36Tj2xpA3c5Z6Oc2F9HKemMe9ub5 WMkkFi911pyLCPwjsWPUfyaJfat+pyK/5fewA5iE2Eo3Ld4qXZeNlC4/JD/x51Tq6Hiy 2AWQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.110.195 with SMTP id r3mr10501171icp.12.1415963749526; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5465e062$0$12998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <019e01cffd3d$18b60c50$4a2224f0$@us> <5465e062$0$12998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 22:15:49 +1100 Subject: Re: I don't read docs and don't know how to use Google. What does the print function do? From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1415963759 news.xs4all.nl 2970 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35843 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:80755 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > http://blog.codinghorror.com/why-cant-programmers-program/ > > Not everyone agrees that this is a thing: > > http://www.skorks.com/2010/10/99-out-of-100-programmers-cant-program-i-call-bullshit/ > > I'm inclined to accept that maybe 99 out of 100 *applications* for > programming jobs are from people who can't program, but I don't think that > 99 out of 100 *programmers* can't program. It's probably more like 65, > maybe 70 out of 100, tops. I was talking only about *applications* at that point. From the point of view of an applicant, the massive noise of incompetent people trying to get the job means it's really hard to get heard, especially since a lot of the incompetents can make their resumes look great. [1] So getting a job you apply for based on your own skill is... not easy. At least, I'm fairly sure it's not easy. All I know is that it's never happened to me. [1] They probably learned from all the other department heads. http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-02-20/ ChrisA