Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:Django': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject: + ': 0.07; 'migration': 0.09; 'subject:script': 0.09; '\xe2\x80\x94': 0.09; 'developers,': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'django': 0.11; 'language,': 0.12; 'finney': 0.16; 'path.': 0.16; 'rewriting': 0.16; 'shops': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:Converting': 0.16; 'subject:PHP': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'code,': 0.22; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.22; "i've": 0.25; 'right.': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'michael': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'base,': 0.31; 'convince': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'open': 0.33; 'worked': 0.33; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'knows': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'requirements': 0.37; 'clear': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'writes': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; '12,': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'subject:skip:C 10': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'entire': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'shop': 0.69; 'shop,': 0.84; 'stranded': 0.84; 'url:video': 0.84; 'convinced': 0.93; 'hand,': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4wSjA8hdWOYx/8DRxOdLu97wibh5qYoR+caaOpoHpsU=; b=PQjCs8ICz5VEn/2hqefXpYTvUOQ9inXtBNqoPjMt3QAhzIR+jsJ54/lKQ6nGX8irH9 bmThhyCoM3xEzS15U4qke3RiwcHuWCuekKaqtAjgVYErwnA5FgLXpJRCf8owPOIM0rtk B9KUU9qAIhKosUUYhyOvEFWhskhPSx7p79wEpzk5iV9ajcpDkELEIZ6/6oCXp6+oa3ya ZywIzL0fyvBaQDdXSf6LK3T51X/8k3p2JIWn0vuk/qffgzKPJ+k2arHyFgOl51ftnx+p ZXxLRMtdItzspJXakXvK1NRvJLEI3ZmcKH0/kBEwNyfuZg23DrgGswmZH+c5i8x/GG2+ Dk6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.236.232 with SMTP id ux8mr66997925wjc.96.1415819008978; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:03:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <858ujg5moq.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> References: <546395E9.40902@gmail.com> <858ujg5moq.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:03:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Converting a PHP app to Python + Django (was: Communicating with a PHP script (and pretending I'm a browser)) From: Larry Martell To: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1415819016 news.xs4all.nl 2876 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42358 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:80621 On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Ben Finney w= rote: > Michael Torrie writes: > >> If the shop is entire a PHP shop, and no one knows python, then >> rewriting things in Python and Django is a really bad idea. > > It can be done well; see =E2=80=9CTransitioning from PHP to Django on the= sly=E2=80=9D > . > > The presenter emphasises that one of the more important requirements is > to convince everyone: the management, the developers, even stakeholder > customers/users. > >> I've worked in shops before where one person comes in with a new >> language, writes some code, then leaves, leaving us stranded as it >> were. > > Right. On the other hand, I've worked in shops where the big PHP code > base is seen by all as a legacy code base, and the stakeholders were > quite open to being convinced to migrate =E2=80=94 provided a clear migra= tion > path. > > That's what the above presentation goes into. I recommend it. Thanks Ben!