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From: Donald Stufft In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:49:26 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: To: Paul Moore X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Cc: "python-list@python.org" , Distutils X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1415375374 news.xs4all.nl 2943 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34690 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:80367 > On Nov 7, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Paul Moore wrote: >=20 > I'm in the process of developing an automated solution to allow users > to quickly set up a Windows box so that it can be used to compile > Python extensions and build wheels. While it can obviously be used by > Windows developers who want to quickly set up a box, my main target is > Unix developers who want to provide wheels for Windows users. >=20 > To that end, I'd like to get an idea of what sort of access to Windows > a typical Unix developer would have. I'm particularly interested in > whether Windows XP/Vista is still in use, and whether you're likely to > already have Python and/or any development tools installed. Ideally, a > clean Windows 7 or later virtual machine is the best environment, but > I don't know if it's reasonable to assume that. >=20 > Another alternative is to have an Amazon EC2 AMI prebuilt, and users > can just create an instance based on it. That seems pretty easy to do > from my perspective but I don't know if the connectivity process > (remote desktop) is a problem for Unix developers. >=20 > Any feedback would be extremely useful. I'm at a point where I can > pretty easily set up any of these options, but if they don't turn out > to actually be usable by the target audience, it's a bit of a waste of > time! :-) >=20 > Thanks, > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig As an *nix user I have a Windows 7 VM on my OS X machine that I can also dual boot into which I mostly use for playing games that won=E2=80=99t = play on my OS X box natively. It does not have Python or any development tooling installed on it. I also have access to the cloud(tm) which is where I normally spin up a whatever-the-most-recent-looking-name Windows Server. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA