Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!bcyclone04.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone04.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.041 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'lately': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.08; 'booth': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'subject:command': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'wrote': 0.14; 'changes': 0.15; '"but': 0.16; 'expert,': 0.16; 'grounds': 0.16; 'programmer,': 0.16; 'soap,': 0.16; 'subject:description': 0.16; 'unlikely': 0.16; "where's": 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'basis,': 0.24; 'wednesday': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'software.': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'asking': 0.27; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'larry': 0.31; 'with,': 0.31; 'yesterday': 0.31; 'lists': 0.32; 'front': 0.32; 'url:non-standard http port': 0.33; 'received:66': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'requirements': 0.37; 'expected': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'subject:needed': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'dave': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'received:unknown': 0.61; 'header :Message-Id:1': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'charset:windows-1256': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; 'bridge': 0.65; 'civil': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'mar': 0.68; 'gathering': 0.68; 'received:204': 0.75; '"it': 0.84; 'yard.': 0.84; 'angel': 0.91; 'boxes': 0.91; 'imagine': 0.93 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level: From: Gene Heskett To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Understanding "help" command description syntax - explanation needed Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 23:05:02 -0500 References: <000001cff8e7$af51ef30$0df5cd90$@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1415246708 news.xs4all.nl 2895 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35544 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 4762 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3825922163 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:80311 On Wednesday 05 November 2014 21:52:42 Mark Lawrence did opine And Gene did reply: > On 06/11/2014 02:37, Dave Angel wrote: > > Chris Angelico Wrote in message: > >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Larry Martell wrote: > >>>> And I don't think > >>>> Larry was actually offended; it's just that some questions don't > >>>> really have easy answers - imagine someone asking a great > >>>> mathematician "But how do you KNOW that 2 + 2 is 4? Where's it > >>>> written down?"... all he can say is "It is". > >>> > >>> Yeah, I'm on a lot of lists and lately I've seen a lot of 'I'm not > >>> a programmer, but I want to write code and I need someone to tell > >>> me how." Gets to you after a while. > >> > >> Too true. Those same people are unlikely to go to a gathering of > >> civil engineers and say "I'm no expert, but I want to build a > >> bridge and I need someone to tell me how", yet somehow it's > >> expected to be possible with software. > >> > >> ChrisA > > > > Or I'm no expert but I need someone to show me how; build me one > > > > here in my front yard. > > Against a requirements specification that changes on a daily basis, I > want it delivered yesterday and no you can't have any more resources to > help out, so don't ask :) With, or without a toll booth and operator? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS