Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'affected': 0.07; 'attribute': 0.07; 'incompatible': 0.07; '[1,': 0.09; '__init__': 0.09; 'handful': 0.09; 'operand': 0.09; 'pretend': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'style.': 0.09; 'way:': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '**kwds)': 0.16; 'b=2)': 0.16; 'behave': 0.16; 'collections': 0.16; 'counter()': 0.16; 'debugging,': 0.16; 'in-place': 0.16; 'instead:': 0.16; 'iterable': 0.16; 'iterable)': 0.16; 'iterable,': 0.16; 'maintainer': 0.16; 'oddity': 0.16; 'operators.': 0.16; 'positional': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'typeerror:': 0.16; "{'a':": 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'fix': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'not,': 0.20; '(the': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; '(in': 0.22; 'tests': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'skip:" 40': 0.26; 'skip:_ 20': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'specifically': 0.29; 'thus': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'you?': 0.31; '"",': 0.31; 'minor': 0.31; 'raised': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; 'classes': 0.35; 'anybody': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'in:': 0.36; 'sequence': 0.36; 'up!': 0.36; 'so,': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'expect': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'itself': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'greatest': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'break': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'places': 0.64; 'background:': 0.68; 'real-world': 0.68; 'bitten': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'more:': 0.84; 'type(s)': 0.84; 'gift': 0.85; 'hate': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: Real-world use of Counter Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 18:34:40 +0100 Organization: None References: <545A4FCC.4090503@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p57bd843b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.13.3 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 82 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1415208898 news.xs4all.nl 2912 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58377 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:80283 Ethan Furman wrote: > I'm looking for real-world uses of collections.Counter, specifically to > see if anyone has been surprised by, or had to spend extra-time debugging, > issues with the in-place operators. > > Background: > > Most Python data types will cause a TypeError to be raised if unusable > types are passed in: > > --> {'a': 0}.update(5) > TypeError: 'int' object is not iterable > > --> [1, 2, 3].extend(3.14) > TypeError: 'float' object is not iterable > > --> from collections import Counter > --> Counter() + [1, 2, 3] > TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'Counter' and 'list' > > Most Counter in-place methods also behave this way: > > --> c /= [1, 2, 3] > TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /=: 'Counter' and 'list' > > However, in the case of a handful of Counter in-place methods (+=, -=, &=, > and |=), this is what happens instead: > > --> c = Counter() > --> c += [1, 2, 3] > AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'items' > > Even worse (in my opinion) is the case of an empty Counter `and`ed with an > incompatible type: > > --> c &= [1, 2, 3] > --> > > No error is raised at all. > > In order to avoid unnecessary code churn (the fix itself is quite simple), > the maintainer of the collections module wants to know if anybody has > actually been affected by these inconsistencies, and if so, whether it was > a minor inconvenience, or a compelling use-case. > > So, if this has bitten you, now is the time to speak up! :) Some more: >>> Counter(a=1, b=2) Counter({'b': 2, 'a': 1}) >>> Counter(a=1, b=2, iterable=3) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/usr/lib/python3.4/collections/__init__.py", line 462, in __init__ self.update(iterable, **kwds) File "/usr/lib/python3.4/collections/__init__.py", line 542, in update _count_elements(self, iterable) TypeError: 'int' object is not iterable This is just the first oddity I came up with. I expect that the possibilities to break Python-coded classes are unlimited, as a result of the -- for me -- greatest gift of Python, namely: duck-typing. I hate the sum() implementation, not because I ever plan to "add" strings, but because it tests against bad style. Consenting adults, where are you? In particular for the &= fix, would >>> c = Counter([1, 2]) >>> c &= [1, 2, 3] >>> c Counter({1: 1, 2: 1}) still be allowed? If not, are there other places where a sequence might pretend to be a mapping? FTR, as I'm not exactly a power-user of Counter, I think I have used only the initializer with one positional iterable, and most_common(), and thus never been bitten by any of the above pitfalls.