Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'intermediate': 0.07; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'yeah,': 0.09; '>on': 0.16; '>to': 0.16; 'ast': 0.16; 'binary.': 0.16; 'chip': 0.16; 'discussion.': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'message- id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'quantum': 0.16; 'received:211.29': 0.16; 'received:211.29.132': 0.16; 'received:cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'received:syd.optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'machine': 0.22; 'memory': 0.22; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'skip:n 60': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'mention': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'asked': 0.31; 'subject:that': 0.31; 'subject:the': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'received:com.au': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'received:211': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'subject:can': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'lower': 0.61; 'content- disposition:inline': 0.62; 'reach': 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'levels': 0.65; 'specialized': 0.65; 'dont': 0.67; 'yourself': 0.78; 'subject:you': 0.87; 'engineers,': 0.91; 'obvious,': 0.91; 'subject:OFF': 0.95 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:39:22 +1100 From: Cameron Simpson To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] It is true that is impossible write in binary code, the lowest level of programming that you can write is in hex code? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <39ed3434-2d1c-4d74-b20d-db8b346f1c7d@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) References: <39ed3434-2d1c-4d74-b20d-db8b346f1c7d@googlegroups.com> X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=dMCfxopb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:117 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:17 a=ZtCCktOnAAAA:8 a=PO7r1zJSAAAA:8 a=LcaDllckn3IA:10 a=r5UFkecV8NkA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=vrnE16BAAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4RBUngkUAAAA:8 a=Uz4K6AA25Uh6Zp2jqs0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1415169574 news.xs4all.nl 2957 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48878 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!bete-des-vosges.org!feed.ac-versailles.fr!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:80248 On 04Nov2014 11:24, sohcahtoa82@gmail.com wrote: >On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:51:53 AM UTC-8, ast wrote: >> a écrit dans le message de >> news:e5c95792-f81f-42b4-9996-5545f560781d@googlegroups.com... >> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:49:36 AM UTC-8, françai s wrote: >> >I can't think of any reason why someone would WANT >> >to program in binary/hex machine code. >> >> It happens if you design yourself a specialized microcoded >> machine, also known as a number cruncher and you dont >> want to developp assembly tools to program it. So you >> have to fill a memory with 0 and 1 >> It's sometimes the work of electronic engineers, chip >> designers. > >Well, yeah, that's pretty obvious, but I think that's a bit outside the scope of this discussion. The OP didn't mention designing a chip. Bah! He asked if there were lower levels than binary. Ergo: chip design! (And microcode, the intermediate layer. Or one of the layers, depending where you draw the line.) Should we stop before we reach the quantum foam of spacetime? Cheers, Cameron Simpson