Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'binary': 0.07; 'memory.': 0.07; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'bits': 0.09; 'code"': 0.09; 'encode': 0.09; 'logic': 0.09; 'obsolete': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'toggle': 0.09; '(note:': 0.16; 'bit.': 0.16; 'code?': 0.16; 'differs': 0.16; 'hex': 0.16; 'implies': 0.16; 'message-id:@4ax.com': 0.16; 'notation': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'switch.': 0.16; 'switches': 0.16; 'code.': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'machine': 0.22; 'code,': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'url:home': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'holds': 0.26; 'push': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; 'instruction': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'relies': 0.31; 'subject:that': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'beyond': 0.35; 'operate': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'received:76': 0.38; 'represent': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'subject:can': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'computers': 0.72; 'lowest': 0.74; 'subject:you': 0.87; 'subject:OFF': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] It is true that is impossible write in binary code, the lowest level of programming that you can write is in hex code? Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:30:06 -0500 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-249-28-240.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1415154617 news.xs4all.nl 2955 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54418 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:80241 On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:45:32 -0300, françai s declaimed the following: >I intend to write in lowest level of computer programming as a hobby. > >It is true that is impossible write in binary code, the lowest level >of programming that you can write is in hex code? > >What is the lowest level of programming computers that you can write ? > >Is binary code? > >Is hex code? > >Is another machine code? Honestly do not know if it is true that there >is another machine code beyond the binary and hex code. > >Is Assembly? Meaningless question -- it all relies upon HOW THE CODE GETS INTO MEMORY. NOT TO MENTION: "binary" and "hex" are just notations. They both represent a set of bits, but hex uses one character to encode 4 bits while binary needs one character for each bit. 0xA5 is the SAME as '101001010'b (note: the notation differs with whatever system you use to enter them -- 0xA5 in C is 16#A5# in Ada, and 'A5'h in some obsolete systems.. If you have an old system with front-panel toggle switches, you set the switches for binary values, and then push the "enter" switch. "machine code" typically implies an instruction set specific to that machine... ALL computers operate in BINARY logic (a bit only holds 0 or 1). How you get those bits into the computer is irrelevant. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/