Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.042 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'guido': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:test': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'finney': 0.16; 'merely': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'vary.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'library': 0.18; 'issue.': 0.22; 'separate': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'on,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; '(on': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'something': 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'wrong': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'somebody': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'authority': 0.60; 'black': 0.61; 'mentioned': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'stated': 0.69; 'therefore': 0.72; 'educational.': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject::': 0.85; 'television': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: (test) ? a:b Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:56:22 +1100 References: <54476af8$0$21651$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <7839376e-fc27-4299-ae63-4ddf17ef9a8a@googlegroups.com> <7d2ea3c1-504e-4f5c-8338-501b1483df38@googlegroups.com> <878uk6x5nd.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <544a1016$0$13000$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <544b2f15$0$12978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <544c3bde$0$12988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <85oasz3an3.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <85vbn61c15.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DIANBdBCu0qBnbHoyzJiDjuuBs8= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1414378599 news.xs4all.nl 2838 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42265 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!bete-des-vosges.org!feed.ac-versailles.fr!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:79750 Joshua Landau writes: > On 27 October 2014 02:28, Ben Finney wrote: > > Guido is incorrect. I've already stated what's wrong. > > You were arguing about what Guido thinks. I don't know where I did that; to my knowledge, this is the first time I've mentioned Guido, and it's in rebuttal to his authority on the issue of whether “there's nothing wrong with” bool-as-a-special-int. (On the separate issue of whether Guido is an authority on how Python will behave, I haven't even commented. To be clear: yes, he is the BDFL and therefore is authoritative on that issue.) > Regardless, I feel you're making this out as a black and white issue. There either is something problematic with a behaviour, or there isn't. The *degree* of wrongness can vary. I'm merely pointing out that, in this case, it's non-zero. -- \ “I must say that I find television very educational. The minute | `\ somebody turns it on, I go to the library and read a book.” | _o__) —Groucho Marx | Ben Finney