Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.franciliens.net!fdn.fr!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:error': 0.03; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'defaults': 0.07; 'installed.': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'windows,': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'windows': 0.15; 'icon': 0.16; 'idle.': 0.16; 'idlelib': 0.16; 'pinned': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'command': 0.22; 'shell': 0.22; 'load': 0.23; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'script': 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'installed': 0.27; 'have,': 0.30; 'default,': 0.31; 'invoke': 0.31; 'really,': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'skip:c 30': 0.32; 'open': 0.33; 'linux': 0.33; 'running': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'advice': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'idle': 0.36; 'vice': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'entry': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'use.': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'subject: ': 0.61; 'answer.': 0.68; 'default': 0.69; 'analysis': 0.75; 'difference.': 0.84; 'pain': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'opens': 0.91; 'subject:Lists': 0.91; 'received:108': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: I am out of trial and error again Lists Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:48:59 -0400 References: <2412654f-ac5e-4678-8956-afc4e27affb3@googlegroups.com> <93qn4a5g5bd93h5rmase56v5li8mkv0inf@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-108-16-203-145.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <93qn4a5g5bd93h5rmase56v5li8mkv0inf@4ax.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1414277365 news.xs4all.nl 2837 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34688 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:79689 On 10/25/2014 2:23 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:38:31 -0400, Seymore4Head > declaimed the following: > >> >> I do get the difference. I don't actually use Python 2. I use >> CodeSkulptor. I do have Python 3 installed. Actually I have Python 2 >> installed but IDLE defaults to Python 3. This is wrong. Pythonx.y runs Idlex.y, not vice versa. Seymore installed some version of Python 3 as default, as he should have, and 'Edit with Idle' opens the default version of Python, with its version of Idle. >> So it is a pain to actually load Python 2. Not really, neither on linux or Windows. > So don't use Idle... Since Seymore analysis is wrong, this advice in not the answer. If he is running on Windows, it is dubious in that the Windows console interpreter is a pain to use. > Open up a Windows command shell and invoke Python > without giving a script file to execute. > > C:\Users\Wulfraed\Documents>python python -m idlelib will open the corresponding Idle. So will the Start menu entry or an icon pinned to the taskbar. > C:\Users\Wulfraed\Documents>python3 You must have done something extra to make this work on Windows. -- Terry Jan Reedy