Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.149 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.73; '*S*': 0.03; 'subject:error': 0.03; 'string': 0.09; 'omit': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'bonus,': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:possible': 0.16; 'subject:simple': 0.16; 'fix': 0.17; 'trying': 0.19; 'example': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'second': 0.26; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'errors': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'charge': 0.33; 'problem': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'ensure': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'solve': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'subject: ': 0.61; 'skip:* 10': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; "you'll": 0.62; "you've": 0.63; 'stand': 0.64; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'it!': 0.67; 'subjectcharset:utf-8': 0.72; 'desperate': 0.84; 'glass': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'rip': 0.84; 'adopt': 0.91; 'habit': 0.91; 'philips': 0.91; 'subject:Lists': 0.91; 'dollars': 0.97 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: The =?utf-8?B?4oCcdHJpYWxz4oCd?= in =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9Ctrial?= and =?utf-8?Q?error=E2=80=9D?= should be as simple as possible (was: I am out of trial and error again Lists) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:59:39 +1100 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:beWwSiULfoomL3L9u373NAJiFBY= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1414022393 news.xs4all.nl 2937 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:79485 Seymore4Head writes: > Those string errors were desperate attempts to fix the "append" error > I didn't understand. It's normal when learning to get one's code into a mess. But, when trying to trouble-shoot, please adopt the habit of *simplifying* the examples, to better understand them. At the least, when presenting code here for asking questions, ensure you've make a simple-as-possible example showing the problem. In other words: rip out any complicated parts to see if they're relevant; if the same problem happens, that part wasn't relevant to the example, and you should omit it when presenting it here. You'll find that this will get you more sensible answers, As a bonus, it will often lead to you understanding the problem enough to solve it! -- \ “At my lemonade stand I used to give the first glass away free | `\ and charge five dollars for the second glass. The refill | _o__) contained the antidote.” —Emo Philips | Ben Finney