Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'skip:[ 20': 0.04; 'tree': 0.05; 'nested': 0.07; '[0,': 0.09; 'subject:test': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '20]': 0.16; 'arithmetic.': 0.16; 'bisect': 0.16; 'breakpoints': 0.16; 'chained': 0.16; 'dict': 0.16; 'expressions,': 0.16; 'readability': 0.16; 'received:209.85.223.173': 0.16; 'redundancy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; '15,': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'values': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'cases': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'turn': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'easily': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; "you're": 0.61; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'worth': 0.66; 'behavior': 0.77; 'subject::': 0.85; 'canonical': 0.91 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=E+Xz3IYIg+7+k3XCR2gpF/G8+zrKZTVIpf/MrLQNEtM=; b=AxvzOjN52oSNfS7DPuQp4hLMRNWGo0vKOKUWOFic2dH+ejoJhhkI2jRoeq/RKp8bhA qejpYnrchz2wJItSskgA0qD1eqDuikrR4SmDEROwWZog9E2qok1Xov7Y97FnweV7rEjN GdYtbgtWlxJxtiSXkhJoVRar6fqokdGaaRPbJpv804/X+7/jVS95apX8o7Z6+g6UBwLI yWXFU+8qKhvguEKY2T3SOp2QfqrBoBb/U3nKmRozipIG2vvf9sKW2YC7276yw3mqDPBl xLvP7oI7QNOG+uySpS+4Hi5mBkGSLOdAAvUN+RVLz2avHCnMT1l/zX3tFubQf/+QEvzw SLEg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnKOLmIKzAuEa2+DmXZdnQCB+nZpPClUw0MkrfTf1t1QPyBFy6M57GiOFNeWLf93o6T0NmNPXDxPiWjiKCJIdiWwL8y11MbFTakoa09oqUgTFVdevwvbRK3KtHt9XWuSqPNrpDB X-Received: by 10.107.3.25 with SMTP id 25mr3719780iod.69.1414002425508; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:27:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.107.3.25 with SMTP id 25mr3719431iod.69.1414002421785; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:27:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Ruffalo X-Google-Original-From: Matthew Ruffalo Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:27:00 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Angelico Subject: Re: (test) ? a:b References: <54476af8$0$21651$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <7839376e-fc27-4299-ae63-4ddf17ef9a8a@googlegroups.com> <5447db41$0$13000$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mpv1.tis.cwru.edu) Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1414002429 news.xs4all.nl 2935 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34524 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!bete-des-vosges.org!feed.ac-versailles.fr!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:79465 On 10/22/2014 12:40 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > That's true when it's fundamentally arithmetic. But part of that > readability difference is the redundancy in the second one. What if it > weren't so redundant? > > 'Negative' if x < 0 else 'Low' if x < 10 else 'Mid' if x < 20 else 'Hig= h' > > You can't easily turn that into a dict lookup, nor indexing. It's > either a chained if/elif tree or nested if/else expressions, which > come to the same thing. No, you can't turn that into a dict lookup, but this is one of the canonical use cases for the bisect module: >>> from bisect import bisect >>> breakpoints =3D [0, 10, 20] >>> labels =3D ['Negative', 'Low', 'Mid', 'High'] >>> values =3D [-5, 5, 15, 25] >>> [labels[bisect(breakpoints, value)] for value in values] ['Negative', 'Low', 'Mid', 'High'] It's also worth noting that using bisect is O(log(n)) instead of O(n), but if you're going to hit a point where the asymptotic behavior matters I'm sure you will have long since abandoned a manually-written if/elif chain. MMR...