Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'that?': 0.05; 'python3': 0.07; 'derived': 0.09; 'subject:trying': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'url:download': 0.12; '(it': 0.16; '>in': 0.16; '>on': 0.16; '>the': 0.16; 'bsd': 0.16; 'elsewhere,': 0.16; 'emulator': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'macs': 0.16; 'message-id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'once;': 0.16; 'prefer.': 0.16; 'received:211.29': 0.16; 'received:211.29.132': 0.16; 'received:cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'received:syd.optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'subject:python3': 0.16; 'tradeoffs': 0.16; 'url:mac': 0.16; 'url:tcltk': 0.16; 'thursday,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; 'pointed': 0.19; 'version.': 0.19; 'separate': 0.22; 'shell': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'unix': 0.29; 'related': 0.29; 'asked': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'mac': 0.33; 'message.': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'received:com.au': 0.36; 'charset:us- ascii': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'received:211': 0.38; 'called': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'is.': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'content- disposition:inline': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'dont': 0.67; 'production': 0.68; 'default': 0.69; 'information:': 0.72; 'audience': 0.74; 'dr.': 0.77; 'details:': 0.80; 'regard.': 0.84; 'ships': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:48:27 +1100 From: Cameron Simpson To: Rustom Mody Subject: Re: python3 on mac-mavericks (was trying idle) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) References: X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=dMCfxopb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:117 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:17 a=ZtCCktOnAAAA:8 a=PO7r1zJSAAAA:8 a=LcaDllckn3IA:10 a=r5UFkecV8NkA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=vrnE16BAAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=8AHkEIZyAAAA:8 a=BkJc7pSyGhKbSQFMt5QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1413497890 news.xs4all.nl 2947 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46942 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:79227 On 16Oct2014 06:29, rusi wrote: >On Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:56:56 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: >> One may have to install activestate tkc/tk on mac, depending on osx >> version. This page has details: >> https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk > >Ok Ive some more information: >The people in the audience using macs are using mavericks > >Whats the best way to setup python3 for that? > >I remember seeing some two different repos (if that what they are called >in mac-land) for python. With some different tradeoffs which I dont understand. I use MacPorts. Also popular are Brew and Fink. You can even use them all at once; they install to separate trees. My Python 3 comes from MacPorts. >Another related question for mac-python usage: >I asked one of the mac-users: >Please start your default python in a shell and tell me what version it is. >Answer: Mac has no shell. > >I find this hard to believe. Is a shell called something else >in mac-maverick?? Where/how to find it? As pointed out elsewhere, OSX ships with "Terminal" as a terminal emutator. Another popular terminal emulator is iTerm2, which is what I prefer. You can run X11 also, and use any of the many terminal emulators that run in it, though the experience is clunkier. As far as shells go, OSX ships with /bin/sh, /bin/bash and /bin/zsh. Or for the perverse, /bin/csh and /bin/tcsh (it is, after all, a BSD derived OS). I use zsh, getting my copy from MacPorts instead of OSX's native one. So it is a perfectly normal UNIX system in this regard. Cheers, Cameron Simpson No electrons were harmed in the production of this message. - Dr. P. Gensheimer