Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!lightspeed.eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.040 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'problem:': 0.07; 'bug.': 0.09; 'default.': 0.09; 'feature,': 0.09; 'feature.': 0.09; 'subtle': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'slightly': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '13,': 0.31; 'default,': 0.31; "i'd": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'behind': 0.37; 'solving': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'providing': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'life': 0.66; 'default': 0.69; 'bite': 0.84; 'colour': 0.84; 'easier,': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=xg7HHcA2cyKSMz40sbxVBkf6KsG8NF07olBkUIyIz08=; b=SgGXKr3Y/pLwEF2nvHr1LO/cdn70tvsm+sHpG6x1uzMNg3/8fXeKJmELhdGohWitj9 uK2u0wwpnEBY7aOII7h4ArB3arDVvDGBx2m/6GaPUDlbtkqnev0FWWFvK3NQCqp8c+CU Pg6w116FiRGzKhArQahzS5WPdv6BZOt1dU+zoEBEHshWvlwshmsA0e4u+xKqi0RrnKZs HtacXGEDtbnhrXmDCXcOIIG6ZBi/R9mDGvD0JdPPtsiWGtENDCZmdkb1dMTlwKEd4c2E JMb2i19fq6npvkOlrgy6+s+BglSK2mB/rCtSOa/t3YwjMrNpmqydtf5gUVjFdHAYuwsu ZfRw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.102.106 with SMTP id fn10mr24589743igb.14.1413139390621; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 11:43:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <543acaa2$0$12115$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> References: <9MxZv.411008$J62.18700@fx03.am4> <543acaa2$0$12115$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 05:43:10 +1100 Subject: Re: Toggle From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1413139393 news.xs4all.nl 2858 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60259 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 3737 X-Received-Body-CRC: 295452330 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:79015 On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Tony the Tiger wrote: >> colour = 'red' if colour == 'blue' else 'blue' > > I call that a subtle bug that most likely will jump up and bite your > behind when you least expect it. More generally, I'd say that this is solving a (very) slightly different problem: it's providing a "toggle with default" feature, where the part after the else is the default. If you don't want a default, that's a bug. I've known times when that default makes life a lot easier, in which case it'd be a feature. ChrisA