Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'operator': 0.03; 'doing?': 0.09; 'happen.': 0.09; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.11; '"or"': 0.16; 'ans': 0.16; 'boolean': 0.16; 'evaluated.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'means.': 0.16; '{!r};': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'separate': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'second': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'programming.': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '13,': 0.31; 'this.': 0.32; 'basic': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'expect': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'break': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'different': 0.65; 'skill': 0.68; 'evaluate': 0.72; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=pq5leOaEHdlUljQ1DpA4oBOqH5ycxVgrww4IM1ufaVs=; b=iIzbgET+jX535BQf6KBQneJMKOWOzK8CiyY7bu36bQWzoetAKd2uVdMBQ6Y/JDes+c znIh4BKRBhHeUvqPCmAuc83F8C0ju4vq65gN0oUaZ3HTWmdt/TWQZ9v0sYIAj+OsrZ2U oSCrZTYPoQOpFA2ebf+YAzyiJVrGnQp+hrEatEEGdqpFZ7/heVIf77MIisG8nJukHiN6 4zgCFmcmO9fqBtcEWULAtvX/whgL4sAzh8CqyS4dG2wzg5ggMmkgZoEE9SBYlseJxUHE qHrjvrQVRkeELkuxPDgZhF/JiHXWttnV93jtEHtS1JcXdSjrT5aF8WlnJ4HQfhVJqAtW 1hrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.176.202 with SMTP id ck10mr24563466igc.2.1413135107106; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 10:31:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 04:31:47 +1100 Subject: Re: while loop - multiple condition From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1413135115 news.xs4all.nl 2933 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43572 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:79010 On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 AM, Shiva wrote: >> The loop will continue while either part is true - that's what "or" >> means. Is that what you intended it to be doing? >> >> ChrisA >> > > > Yes......however, the second part of the or condition doesn't get evaluated. > So if I enter a 'y' - I expect the second part to evaluate and the loop to > break - but that doesn't seem to happen. Break it down into separate parts and have a look at what's happening. while ans.lower() != 'yes' or ans.lower()[0] != 'y': ans = input('Do you like python?') print("ans.lower() = {!r}; first cond = {!r}, second cond {!r}, disjunction {!r}".format( ans.lower(), (ans.lower() != 'yes'), (ans.lower()[0] != 'y'), (ans.lower() != 'yes' or ans.lower()[0] != 'y') )) The while loop will continue so long as the disjunction is True. See what it's actually doing. This is fundamental Boolean logic, a basic skill of programming. You're going to need to master this. Look at the different pieces, and get your head around what the 'or' operator actually does. ChrisA