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Rustom Mody wrote:

> On Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:26:41 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 19:34:30 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> 
>> >>>> Color.Red
>> >>>> print (Color.Red)
>> > Color.Red
>> > # Not sure what to make of that distinction...
> 
>> That's because the interactive interpreter displays the repr() of objects
>> (except for None, which it suppresses), while print outputs the str() of
>> them.
> 
> Yeah...
> 
> What I meant to wonder upon was: "Is this behavior what the pro-print or
> the anti-print folks like?"
> 
> In any case that the P in REPL is not *exactly* the same as print
> (or equivalently the distinction between str and repr) makes for some
> intricate noob confusions.
> 
> BTW is there some flag that can make them identical?

No flag, but you can tweak that P:

>>> import sys
>>> sys.displayhook = print
>>> "foo"
foo
>>> def f(): pass
... 
>>> f()
None