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From: "Redge @ Versalytics.com" <versalytics@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Practice question
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:54:42 -0400
To: Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>
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> On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> wrote:
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>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:05:40 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
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>>> On Monday, October 6, 2014 10:22:27 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>>>> Consider the sequence:
>>>> 1. Drives on the wrong side of the road 2. Has no clue that there's
>>>> such a concept as 'wrong side of road' 3. Teaches people to drive
>>>> without conveying anything about 'wrong side of road' Hopefully you
>>>> will agree that 1 < 2 < 3?? My gripe is with 3
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>>> No, I don't agree.
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>> Interesting
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>> So you dont agree with: "1<2<3" ?
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> I can't speak for Chris, by my answer is neither Yes nor No, but Mu.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_%28negative%29#In_popular_culture
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> I don't understand what semantics you are giving the < symbol. It's not=20=

> "less than", since statements 1, 2 and 3 above don't have a total order=20=

> or even a partial order. What does it mean to say that "Drives on the=20
> wrong side of the road" is less than "Teaches people to drive without=20
> conveying anything about 'wrong side of road'"? Less than in what sense?=20=

> Alphabetical order? Less dangerous? Less competent? Less annoying? Less=20=

> expensive?
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> So, no, I don't agree. Nor do I disagree.
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> I have fewer issues with your conclusion and analogy than I do with the=20=

> basic premise that there is a connection between Seymore's problem here=20=

> and the use, or non-use, of print in the interactive interpreter. I don't=20=

> see how replacing interactive use and/or the use of print with functions=20=

> containing return statements would help Seymore.
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>> Or with "My gripe is 3"  ?
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>> The second would be quite bizarre:
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> If it's bizarre, why do you consider that Chris may mean that? The=20
> reasonable thing would be to reject it from contention.
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>> "I have a headache..."
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>> "Sorry. But I dont agree with that"
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> "I don't agree that you have a headache. You're obviously lying, acting,=20=

> delusional, an insentient robot programmed to repeat the words 'I have a=20=

> headache', a zombie (not the brain eating kind, the philosophical kind),=20=

> a sophisticated bot (but not sophisticated enough to pass the Turing=20
> test), or otherwise faking it."
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> I'm just sayin'...
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> --=20
> Steven
> --=20
> I agree that 1<2<3.  =46rom a numerical point of view this is correct.  Th=
e distraction here is the inference that the numbers somehow relate to the s=
tatements preceding this conclusion.