Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'feature,': 0.09; 'implemented.': 0.09; 'restart': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '2.7': 0.14; 'changes': 0.15; '3.0.': 0.16; '>>on': 0.16; 'backward': 0.16; 'compatible,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'syntax,': 0.16; 'do,': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; "python's": 0.19; 'command': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'features,': 0.24; 'of.': 0.24; 'propose': 0.24; 'non': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'developers': 0.25; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'feature': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'wonder': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'go.': 0.31; 'sep': 0.31; "can't": 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'useful': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'back': 0.62; 'making': 0.63; 'decided': 0.64; 'taking': 0.65; 'opinions': 0.70; 'day': 0.76; '5:15': 0.84; "they'd": 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=eEOXh2VdsU4Citly3xm+pzLeWhmbxuc9xANqU5gTgRs=; b=Fp/HYsJUAkSMC/LKW8KBSsOGmJHTc3Xx4bdnAeTblK0Y5kPqtp6vcn5l1mjCMRvXu5 4H1P2uoDzMKHFj6yLy3vPM3grhOq/S5g4EfPQo/n0hsRVHi13wMS6ts18w0aBqCZjClT 2JfjPXhNP9rn8gxf2WX27JEw+AUnWQj7QHK0t9byW0gWIszmyNsP9bwI4oy5+L1ivH0s ne45lwI8D0Pl58xWCV0qgzGOf/BuchRvKn+uvPa9LdoCwVNzY04dbyGymGzeULsy6sgl W/3Atu51H1ZBP513kfC3c6NTMwG50DW9fLexQFGdqO3sGaU41RoVpxERXD30zyBHX9yk boIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.51.17.2 with SMTP id ga2mr14145540igd.2.1412123459844; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:30:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <447m2atpvha8jt21cpulq8qu5p92pmogk3@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 10:30:59 +1000 Subject: Re: Restarting Python From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1412123468 news.xs4all.nl 2846 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33241 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:78519 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Seymore4Head wrote: > On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:58:50 -0400, Terry Reedy > wrote: > >>On 9/30/2014 5:15 PM, Seymore4Head wrote: >>> Since the developers of Python decided to make Python 3 non backward >>> compatible, >> >>This is a trollish exaggeration. >> >> > I can't help but wonder why they don't think a command to >>> restart would be a useful addition? >> >>More trollishness. Python does not have 'commands'. >> >>Feature additions are independent of the changes make in 3.0. 2.7 got >>many new features, and even now is getting a few new security features. >> >>One cannot have opinions about something they do not think of. >> >>If you want to propose a new feature, just do that. Describe a use case >>and how the feature would look, using current Python syntax, and how it >>would operate. > > Bad day? No, that's not Terry having a bad day and taking it out on you. That's you making a vague proposal with dubious justification, and Terry coming back to you asking for clarification. As he says, you need to propose new features by saying what they'd do, how they'd do it, and why they should be implemented. Ignore Python's history here, just look at where the language currently is and where you're suggesting it go. ChrisA