Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder2.hal-mli.net!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: "M. Strobel" Newsgroups: comp.lang.php Subject: Re: Lilupophilupop Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 14:53:03 +0100 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <9mtldvFe7jU1@mid.uni-berlin.de> References: <9mqrbsFs13U1@mid.uni-berlin.de> <9mr5p2Fbh8U2@mid.uni-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 0sWKEDIzmmAu+E9AquApPQv+1DydMjIVHxhe7eEG+9qk8Tq8k= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; de; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111101 SUSE/3.1.16 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.16 In-Reply-To: Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.php:4284 Am 07.01.2012 20:34, schrieb Gregor Kofler: > Am 2012-01-07 16:13, M. Strobel meinte: >> Am 07.01.2012 14:28, schrieb Gregor Kofler: >>> Am 2012-01-07 13:15, M. Strobel meinte: >> >>>> But it happens all the time. If you use tools/4GLs/CMSses you >>>> have to trust them, of course. >>> >>> How can I "trust" (or "mistrust") 4GLs? Believe that the software does what it is meant to. Are you going to ask what I think it is meant to, or what I thing you think it is meant to? >>> And no - I don't have to and >>> don't trust stock CMS' when it comes to security issues. Particularly >>> with their plethora of plugins. >>> >>> Gregor >>> >>> >> You saw the _if_ in front of _you use_, did you? > > Yes. As Thomas said - you don't *have* *to* trust it (though it's handy > to have someone else to blame, when problems arise). > > Gregor > and to Thomas PE I think using a software like Coldfusion shows that you trust it - at least so far as to say it is usable. Sure there is room to debate "trust". /Str.