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From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
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Subject: Re: Komodo Edit
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Mitch Bujard wrote:

> On 2013-07-13 17:51:09 +0000, Arno Welzel said:
>>> Komodo edit is OK, but you have to pay to get the entire IDE.
>>> Personally, I prefer Eclipse.  It's completely free and has more
>>> features available.  But then I use it for Java, also.
> 
> So far, the most convenient I found for php is Komodo free. I see no
> use for the very expensive thing.
> 
> I played with Eclipse. It probably is better for Java,

Urban myth. [0]  I have been or I am using Eclipse (currently 4.3 “Kepler”) 
for (from A to Z):

- Android development (that is only partially Java) (ADT by Google)
- C/C++ (C/C++ Development Tools, CDT)
- CSS (Web Tools Platform, WTP)
- Databases and SQL development (Data Tools Platform, DTP)
- (X)HTML (WTP)
- i18n with gettext (gted by Simon Martinelli)
- Java (Java Development Tools, JDT)
- JavaScript and other ECMAScript implementations (JSDT in WTP)
- LaTeX (TeXlipse)
- Perl (Eclipse Perl Integration, EPIC)
- PHP (PHP Development Tools, PDT)
- Prolog (Prolog Development Tools by University of Bonn)
- Python (PyDev by Fabio Zadrozny)
- Regular expressions (QuickREx by Bastian Bergerhoff)
- Shellscripts
- SVN integration (Subversive by Polarion)
- Task-based editing and planning, Bugzilla and Mantis integration (Mylyn)
- Tcl/Expect (Dynamic Languages Toolkit, DLT)
- UML (ArgoEclipse)
- XML applications (like MathML, SVG, XSLT etc.) (WTP)
- other languages and file formats (EclipseColorer or embedded editors)

With proper configuration, no memory or speed issues even on this older 
notebook.

I will probably be using it soon for

- git integration (EGit)

(Needless to say, I am a Friend of Eclipse.)

> but I find it somehow cumbersome for php.

In what way?

Zend Studio [1] is based on Eclipse PHP Development Tools (PDT) [2].  
Eclipse and PDT are for free; Zend Studio is only for free for ZCEs or 
during a 30 days trial period.  By contrast to Komodo IDE, all of them are 
available for more than two operating systems as they are based on Java.

I am currently using PDT 3.2 and find it very useful instead of cumbersome, 
although I am looking forward to Zend Studio's advanced features. [3]

> Mitch
> http://www.FontMenu.com
> See "Oloron Program font" at http://www.fontmenu.com/site/_program.html
> for a font that shows braces, brackets and useful programming symbols in
> *BOLD* ---
> I am extremely patient provided I get my own way in the end.
> Maggy Thatcher

Your signature is very borken. [4, 5]  Please fix, see below.


PointedEars
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[0] <http://www.eclipse.org/projects/> pp.
[1] <http://www.zend.com/products/studio/>
[2] <http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/tools.pdt>
[3] <http://www.zend.com/en/products/studio/comparison>
[4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block>
[5] <http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855>
-- 
> If you get a bunch of authors […] that state the same "best practices"
> in any programming language, then you can bet who is wrong or right...
Not with javascript. Nonsense propagates like wildfire in this field.
  -- Richard Cornford, comp.lang.javascript, 2011-11-14