Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Newsgroups: comp.lang.php Subject: Re: Problem creating a series of tables Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 15:23:08 +0200 Organization: PointedEars Software (PES) Lines: 32 Message-ID: <2444940.C2VyNPdkgh@PointedEars.de> References: <551bc617$0$2845$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> Reply-To: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: solani.org 1427981108 1266 eJwFwYEBACAIArCXshTsnSj+P6GtFgJiopDl8qjQYgfJ8WwBms7ouz0vAR+99Bni3HL3BxTREU4= (2 Apr 2015 13:25:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.solani.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 13:25:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/4.14.2 X-User-ID: eJwNy8EBwCAIA8CViJGA49QC+4/Q3v+cgt7Ycm0fHyAJWq9E5RTjEfPA0BxMHy5EurUqhpc7jeuvEB/crPsBGzEUCg== Cancel-Lock: sha1:7Mvm9rio2uuGoxwSmeODnd9vlzU= X-NNTP-Posting-Host: eJwFwYEBACAEBMCVkH81Dsr+I3SHRWWHE3QM5qxV3cXYkiiY54bcSWun2pa4Mfn8FIJvTD8aXxEA Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.php:15187 Erwin Moller wrote: > On 3/31/2015 10:19 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> Actually, I've always heard the terms "rows" and "columns", ever since >> my first introduction to SQL databases around 30 years ago. Even the >> documentation talks about table rows and columns, not records and fields. > > Thanks for making a point about that. I strongly prefer rows and columns > too. > > I first encountered "records and fields" when working with Microsoft > Classic ASP/VB and their adodb drivers to Access. (And Collections and > Items, arrrgh, what a syntactic mess they created.) > Maybe PHPMyAdmin borrowed from MS. > > And I fully agree with your statement: we don't need more synonyms. > > Why is it people like to invent new words/meanings for concepts that > already exists? To confuse the hell out of us all? To me, a row and a record are synonymous, as are rows and recordsets, respectively. However, I think of a field rather as an element of a row or column, like a table cell, so that for a table with 42 rows/records a column has 42 fields. Likewise, if that table has 23 columns, each row has 23 fields (because it is an *relational* database; for an object-oriented database the number and kind of fields, or properties, can vary). -- PointedEars Zend Certified PHP Engineer Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.