Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <2276436.MPYeS1zdeI@PointedEars.de> From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Reply-To: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Organization: PointedEars Software (PES) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:56:35 +0200 User-Agent: KNode/4.4.11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Face: %i>XG-yXR'\"2P/C_aO%~;2o~?g0pPKmbOw^=NT`tprDEf++D.m7"}HW6.#=U:?2GGctkL,f89@H46O$ASoW&?s}.k+&. <4f86cda7$0$2912$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews.com> <6651622.883.1334288601914.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfj25> <4f882879$0$2787$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews.com> <1977092.XdLjdUsOZY@PointedEars.de> <16487873.YAfrjsNhc7@PointedEars.de> <1400277.AFRqVoOGUt@PointedEars.de> <4f97de59$0$6976$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> Followup-To: poster MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 52 NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Apr 2012 07:56:36 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 12640e1c.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=::Xh::nK^B?gP]QSEBQ^d4ic==]BZ:af>4Fo<]lROoR1nkgeX?EC@@0gVYO=MmT0f:DZm8W4\YJNK06JDa4d]ka`5TLFEG1^c?[< X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.php:5774 Tony Marston wrote: > "Erwin Moller" [wrote]: >> On 4/24/2012 11:10 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>> It is a yes-or-no question, therefore it cannot be incorrect. >> >> Yes, even yes-or-no questions can be incorrect, in the sense that both >> "yes" and "no" are incorrect answers. >> >> Here is an example: >> "This sentence is not true. Is the former sentence correct? Yes or no?" > > Your example is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant, but it is wrong. A yes-or-no question that cannot be answered with a simple "yes" or "no" is _not_ incorrect. But it is harder to answer. It also *might* indicate a fallacy, in which latter case the Zen masters have given us the word "mu" to avoid a wrong answer. > The original statement came in 2 parts: > (1) "This means that you perform no type conversion or checking, or range > checking in the application." > followed by the question > (2) "yes?". > > The question (2) I read as "is the statement (1) correct or incorrect?" to > which I answered "incorrect". And there you are wrong. It was _not_ a statement, it was a *question*. Statements end with a period. Questions end with a question mark. This sentence ended with a question mark. A reasonable answer to that question, since it was a yes-or-no question, would have started with "Yes" or "No" or be a statement having these words as bottom line. But _not_ "Correct" or "Incorrect". I concede that it was a suggestive question, but that does not make it incorrect. The way the Subject header field was changed here is inappropriate. For a start, it is insufficient to tag a posting as off-topic; the new topic needs to be provided as well. The common, reasonable and accepted change is described at . There you (Tony) will also find a description on the attribution that you are still ignoring. F'up2 poster PointedEars -- realism: HTML 4.01 Strict evangelism: XHTML 1.0 Strict madness: XHTML 1.1 as application/xhtml+xml -- Bjoern Hoehrmann