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From: "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm>
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Subject: Re: 100 Things
Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 02:37:54 -0400
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On Sat, 03 May 2014 01:29:10 -0400, George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net>  
wrote:
> On Fri, 02 May 2014 08:30:49 +1200, Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Rod Pemberton wrote:
>>> On Thu, 01 May 2014 14:30:17 -0400, Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-05-01, BartC <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
>>>>> news:yryqqrizlv6f$.brqhfwfl79vg.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>> On Thu, 1 May 2014 15:12:34 +0100, BartC wrote:

>>>>>>> That machines generally work in powers-of-two bitwidths is  
>>>>>>> well-known.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And those that don't, you program in another language... Right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, exactly. C# supports 8, 16, 32 and (I assume) 64-bit data types,
>>>>> and so does Java.
>>>>
>>>> These languages support *only* these types.
>>>
>>> By "these languages", I'm assuming you mean C/C++ and derivatives.
>>
>> Your understanding is arse about face.
>
> Rod is correct that C defines 'byte' as a minimal addressable unit and
> defines characters as data which fits into a byte.

Oh, I thought Ian was saying I made the wrong assumption on which
languages were being discussed.  I thought C, C++, and variations
were under discussion.  So, I was going to go back and check what
languages were being discussed, but didn't.

Before that, I thought Kaz was saying C didn't support sizes other
than 8, 16, 32, 64, which it can.  Standardized microprocessor
architecture is what lends itself to 8-bits and multiples.
Central processing units (cpu), used on mainframes and such,
had widely varying architectures, some of which had C on them.


Rod Pemberton