Path: csiph.com!news.nrbbs.org!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2026 02:50:11 +0000 From: steve g Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Resources to learn common lisp? References: <110a9pp$ckmk$6@dont-email.me> <110guci$26cjr$1@dont-email.me> <110i789$2iqm8$7@dont-email.me> <110j4qk$2q1p4$1@dont-email.me> <110l0v9$3av52$1@dont-email.me> <110nf0q$3vra6$3@dont-email.me> <87y0gg62cx.fsf@nightsong.com> <110rfqf$142ot$1@dont-email.me> <111ne5o$vsm3$3@dont-email.me> <111pbk6$36pi7$1@dont-email.me> <111sb7u$3ua8h$7@dont-email.me> <8fj54lpvg7v6mhi9r9u39tpojbjage8br4@4ax.com> <87mrwdyt0t.fsf@nightsong.com> <1127cho$34rpg$3@dont-email.me> <112o4aa$cpek$2@dont-email.me> <87jyqdtumj.fsf@gmail.com> <87bjbn2nhs.fsf@safunu.org> <877bmaqymo.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2026 22:50:09 -0400 Message-ID: <87pkzxth5q.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tZXM64DRg9FFlRIQMk76R1tLJ0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Lines: 36 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-Lb5KNWmdi+qwGGMjl/rFxA+u/jPIFaMsBsEr4DLYadOjfIOW+M+QfpOTiwPrY4NFfTTh2dassJx6BWc!mtslpJCMzAfYYXZCf3eNzwvu+WX0iAmtxejuU7krzog7emA= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.lisp:61292 comp.lang.c:400840 Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson writes: > On 01/08/2026 11:59 AM, steve g wrote: >> Anton Antimo writes: >> >>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson writes: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>>>> Sadly we've also ended up with programmers who think the machines >>>>>> they program for are giant PDP-11s, and as a result machines which >>>>>> spend a huge amount of effort pretending to be giant PDP-11s. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's all a tragedy. >>>> >>>> The tragedy is not using Common Lisp for everything. >>> >>> I loved this bit and I have a feeling you're correct. My little >>> experience with Common Lisp is that it allows me to write the equivalent >>> fast code that I'd write in C, where speed matters. In other words, I >>> seem to gain nothing (other than more work) by writing typical >>> applications in C. >> Wait until you read LISP:Lisp In Small Pieces. it's published in france. >> > > I read the French edition. /Principes d'Implantation de Scheme et > Lisp/, and it's now available as ebook on Amazon. I recommend it, > it's a really fun book. I believe it's the /second edition/, and > may have a little bit different content than the English one, which > I haven't read. > > Do you read French? No I do not read french; just the algorithms. It is a fantastic book. I can also apparently read german algorithms but the comments and the docstrings can be difficult.