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From: AC Needy <ac.needy@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [OT] "Netiquette"
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 22:15:51 -0500
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On 1/22/2020 3:16 PM, Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:47:15 UTC+1, Arno Welzel  wrote:

>> John G Harris:

>>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:22:31 +0100, Arno Welzel
>>> <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote: <snipped from Thomas Lahn>

>>>> That's one of the reasons why an identity
>>>> card not only contains a display name but also a picture of the
>>>> person, date of birth etc.

>>> Does that mean that identical twins should be illegal?

> LOL.

>> No. It only means that a display name isn't sufficient to identify
>> someone.

> That is why it's a real name and email address: the email address is
> legally binding, at least in principle, there is a contract
> somewhere some real person has signed for that service.

Nonsense. No agreements made nor service/compensation exchanged.

> Now notice that Thomas was talking about attributions in the post,
> while, of course, the email address belongs to the headers...

Rubbish!

    =C2=A6 The followup agent SHOULD also precede the quoted
    =C2=A6 content by an "attribution line" (however,
    =C2=A6 readers are warned not to assume that they are
    =C2=A6 accurate, especially within multiply nested
    =C2=A6 quotations). The following convention for such
    =C2=A6 lines is intended to facilitate their automatic
    =C2=A6 recognition and processing by sophisticated
    =C2=A6 reading agents. The attribution SHOULD contain
    =C2=A6 the name and/or the email address of the
    =C2=A6 precursor's poster, as in

    =C2=A6 Joe D. Bloggs <jdbloggs@foo.example> wrote:

    =C2=A6 or

    =C2=A6 Helmut Schmidt <helmut@bar.example> schrieb:

    =C2=A6 The attribution MAY contain also a single
    =C2=A6 <newsgroup-name> (the one from which the followup
    =C2=A6 is being made), the precursor's message
    =C2=A6 identifier and/or the precursor's Date and Time.
    =C2=A6 Any of these that are present, SHOULD precede the
    =C2=A6 name and/or email address. However, the inclusion
    =C2=A6 or not of such fields SHOULD always be under the
    =C2=A6 control of the poster.

> To put it nicely, you guys are simply not seeing the big picture.

Perhaps there are individuals that do not see the big picture. In order
to see the big picture one needs to understand the situation/concept as a=
=20
whole rather than getting entangled on a specific detail.

  =E2=80=A2 The display name is usually under the control of the poster.

  =E2=80=A2 The attribution line is usually under the control of the post=
er.
    Either automated or manually changed.

  =E2=80=A2 The posters email address SHOULD be a working mailbox.  That =
is not
    required by all providers.

    =C2=A6 Aioe.org hosts a public news server, a USENET
    =C2=A6 site that is *intentionally* kept open for all IP
    =C2=A6 addresses without requiring any kind of
    =C2=A6 authentication both for reading and for
    =C2=A6 posting.

There is no reasonable expectations for individuals to provide/receive=20
identification. Individuals with this expectation will never be happy on
an unmoderated group.

    =C2=A6 "What's in a name? that which we call a rose
    =C2=A6 By any other name would smell as sweet."
    =C2=A6 - William Shakespeare



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