Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Christoph M. Becker" Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript Subject: Re: Definition of a script in JavaScript Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 01:30:16 +0100 Organization: solani.org Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <1843703.7QeMqOPspv@PointedEars.de> <59a1a1bf-a981-43d6-aa1d-2244f9ba5b4e@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: solani.org 1424219413 18018 eJwNwocRwDAIBLCVTHtgHEq8/wiOTiYgjCsMatcuqnZRhugZbvk8Y/R4snsQkShXbuPPeVoeIjsQ0g== (18 Feb 2015 00:30:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.solani.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:30:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBgDAIA7CXgNHCzlGw/59ggkPnVBJMCCL93gbD0Aq4sPj01Co2sm3U5W4M5emX8wMBORBV In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ed98UaAeIn9Gb0fsPo6cGsKRuKA= X-NNTP-Posting-Host: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXwFqo5yCT/09YQoRH5w7G5nBqgt0Um28JckNKZ4F+j6GYeG++KLveJvwM5xB0 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.javascript:26865 Scott Sauyet wrote: > Christoph M. Becker wrote: > >> Isn't it worthwhile to hint at the uncommon spelling of the word >> "javascript" (at least)? [ ... ] > > I don't think it is. Except when the issue under discussion touches on > the differences between the various ES engines, the fact that these > implementations of the specification from ECMA have unique names which > might or might not be spelled with the trademarked "JavaScript" is worse > than trivia. It's a positive distraction from more interesting matters > and helps serve to drive off people who might end up being valuable > members of the community. On the other hand it may help to serve to convey some knowledge about the issue at hand, if the readers care to look up relevant information. If they don't, that might be an indication of their general attitude seeing Usenet (if they're even aware that they're posting to Usenet) as a helpdesk. > But I would take one RobG, or one Stefan Weiss, over a hundred Thomas > Lahns for their overall impact on the group. Well, anybody is free to ignore Thomas' on Usenet. I'm quite sure that RobG and Stefan Weiss know how to configure a killfile, and it seems to me there are (also) other reasons for them to not regularly involving in discussions in this NG anymore. > How many people's language do you think he's changed in this many-year > quest of his? IMO it is not so much about the language, but rather about the knowledge that there is a language standard named ECMAScript, which does not cover many widely used APIs, such as the DOM, which are standardized elsewhere (or not). Many beginners are not aware of that, and that is where much confusion seems to arise. Regarding the language: I'm mostly writing about "JavaScript" elsewhere nowadays, because a not inconsiderable part of the audience is not even aware of the difference between Java and JavaScript -- talking about "ECMAScript" would certainly get them lost. In a technical newsgroup such as c.l.js, I *try* to express myself more specific, though. But in any case, I try to avoid doubtful umbrella terms such as "javascript", which is unfortunately suggested by this NG's FAQ, even if I have not seen it elsewhere in any serious literature. -- Christoph M. Becker