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From: "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de>
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Subject: Re: element content change
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 00:54:10 +0200
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Ben Bacarisse wrote:

> "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> writes:
>
>> ACK.  Or maybe better:
>>
>>   <label id=citylabel><input type=text id=city> City</label><br>
> 
> That looks logically wrong to me -- a label should not include the thing
> it labels.  My only back-up is the examples in[1], which all show the
> control outside, with the label element containing just, well, the
> label.

I have to admit that this construct is counter-intuitive, and might be
even regarded as illogical.  However, in practise it often saves some
further markup, especially the ID (which is quite convenient, if the
markup is generated), and maybe a surrounding "block-level" element.

>> as Yukka already suggested.
> 
> He seemed to be making a different point, though always including some
> text in the label was part of it.

Yes, you're right.  I've read Yukka's post to fast.

> [1]  http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-LABEL

-- 
Christoph M. Becker