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From: "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: iPad2 Scroll Bars ??
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:55:19 -0700
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Evertjan said:

>
> To view 7 fields on a line is not an easy way to view a record.
> HTML gives much easier viewable ways of formatting a record.
>
> Why not give the viewer choices of diaplay?
>
>> and a few search
>> fields and sorting methods based on Denis McMahon's Javascript methods
>> for sorting.
>
> "it works perfectly"?
>
> Your Q shows it does not.
>
> A list of 613  lines can better, IMHO, be devided in smaaler groups, by
> first letter or by adress or by age, according to the wishes of the
> viewer. Serverside SQL search is perfect for the job.
>
>> So, when a user wishes to got to the bottom (or top) of the table
>> (based on 1 of 4 different sorting columns/methods),
>> a quick slide of the scroll bar is easy.
>
> Only in certain browsers perhaps, as your Q shows.

    *Certain Browsers * ???

    I've tested my table on Safari (for PC's), Chrome, FireFox, Opera, IE 7 
and 9.   All have scroll bars.

    I have an iPad 2, and it is the only one of my tested group that does 
not have scroll bars (altho I would assume that other mobile devices may not 
have the scroll bars either).




>
> But why should a user want to go to the top or the bottom,
> there are much more informative ways to show a selection.
>
>>  But, with no Scroll bar, you can wear out  your finger *and*
>>  patience  !
>
> Quite, that is also an argument not to use scrolling lists of such
> length, there are better ways to show a selection.
>

        *of such length* ?!?

    You may (or may not) be interested in taking a look at the first page of 
my www.frostdelay.com site. THe table on the 1st page has in excess of 
*5000* lines and approx 5 columns. This is what I could call 'lengthy'.

    The current table I'm working on has 613 rows - a pipsqueak by 
comparison.  Both of these tables are managed from my CGI server (which is a 
C-based executable with a complete and extensive database backend  (see 
www.whosaway.com)  )

    Anyway, thanks for the response.  My users are very happy with my tables 
(thanks to the help from Denis McMahon).

-Mel