Path: csiph.com!eeepc.pasdenom.info!news.pasdenom.info!news.dougwise.org!aioe.org!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: John Stumbles Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html,comp.lang.javascript Subject: Re: fixed position sidebar and small screen/mobile devices? Date: 11 Feb 2011 19:48:04 GMT Lines: 73 Message-ID: <8rli3kFbvtU1@mid.individual.net> References: <8rkp9eFjhU1@mid.individual.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net tLDyPEtcOKzUQ8zfOgt9jgf/HYO2h6GLeXohznH6Jq0kC1Shsa Cancel-Lock: sha1:fW+SaOcd5CKqLsmGsVBtyHLBOs4= User-Agent: pan 0.119 (Karma Hunters) Xref: csiph.com comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:4453 comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:4294 comp.lang.javascript:21552 On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 03:58:43 +1100, dorayme wrote: > Before worrying about what so many different users on different > platforms and devices will usefully receive, it might be better > to start with a few basics like checking your html at > > Sorry, my bad: that's what comes of changing things at 2 o'clock in the morning :-( Fixed now. > In my modern Safari browsers, absolutely nothing shows when your url is > loaded. FF has more generous error correction, but that is a mixed > blessing. Yes, practically the whole page was inside an un-closed comment. Somewhere I'd picked up an open comment before the . > You are concerned with usability and small screens as well as large. So > why would you have a banner that unnecessarily takes up so much of the > vital vertical space at the very top of the webpage forcing almost > everyone to scroll. I'm planning to shrink it ... > Have you seen what happens even to your banner when users have a text > size you are not expecting? Small and your banner material begins to > disappear! Even worse, what happens in terms of screen real estate > gobbling when text is enlarged? It's not text any more: it's a graphic of text. Yes, I know: yuk. But I couldn't find how to have the banner scale down with the browser window when it was 'real' text, the way a graphic does. If there is a way I'm happy to learn it. But that's why the banner was so large in the first place: to accomodate the text if one shrunk the viewport moderately. > Why boast the xhtml logo on your site, why would you even if you had > produced valid markup? (I won't say why use xhtml in the first place? > ) OK: *I AM A BEGINNER AT THIS* Someone recommended that particular DTD. I am willing - nay eager - to learn what the pros and cons of that versus other DTDs are. As for the W3C valid logo: why not? And it's a handy way for me to check the page (as long as I remember!) > In general, try to get the habit of making more fluid and flexible > designs that do not require so much scrolling, especially horizontal > (your too wide montage on the contact page could be redesigned to still > work for people who can't or do not want to have their browsers so wide. > You could float the individual pics, position them, all sorts of things > that would enable wrapping but still get the sense of a jumble of > drinking discussers). I've set it to width="100%" for the moment. Maybe not so elegant but quick as I already know how to do that and I haven't yet got my brain around floating images and that stuff. > Forget for quite a while browser sniffing, see what you can do without > first. Any specific help gratefully received. -- John Stumbles I used to think the brain was the most interesting part of the body - until I realised what was telling me that