Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Aatu Koskensilta Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript Subject: Re: call by reference Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:06:45 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <87sjgsbw8q.fsf@uta.fi> References: <97d44dea-bfe6-4300-bd31-31c78103a9d7@er9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <37mpm7t5g4or5h5n14sbf7p66p44bv0obe@4ax.com> <4ospm75d1vjq7vkvkevqmcbgi6u8t8ohch@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="mkDZK8dQ1WnTK6GuXhuzxQ"; logging-data="21383"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/P5kb8rARJj/EEHVWvuPeB" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1Zo9pncG5XI4yB97EPNRD9sCDCE= sha1:6yFdmaJdeJ+ddv8h2AUyeedGKz4= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.javascript:13103 "Evertjan." writes: > it is US local slang, an Americanism perhaps. "Nope" is hardly slang. It's just informal. > Earlier in this thread I was assured that it just ment "no", without > any additional innuendo. So you contradict that assurance? There is no innuendo. Nope means no, but is used only in certain conversational contexs, where it has the meaning "no, in fact that's not true", "no, in actual fact that's not how it's done", "no, I don't agree", and so on. That is, nope means just no, but can be used in this wholly transparent meaning only in certain circumstances, where it serves a useful conversational function. There's nothing particularly noteworthy about this -- it's merely an example of a familiar and common phenomenon in language. > Anyhow, for my part this is not specifically about "nope" or > "snarking" but about using local slang that might be unnecessarily > difficult to interprete by those NG-users who are less fluent in > English. Sure, as I already said, it's best to avoid obscure local idioms, slang and other turns of phrase that might cause confusion. But "nope" is not "local slang" (and neither is "snarking" for that matter). "Nope" is informal American English, readily understandable to pretty much anyone. -- Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta@uta.fi) "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen." - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus