Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript Subject: There is no javascript (was: Read binary file) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 13:02:59 +0100 Organization: PointedEars Software (PES) Lines: 163 Message-ID: <5231671.RQTnp4EjVP@PointedEars.de> References: <145821661.4prVZSFEgG@PointedEars.de> <2237637.9AE1fihV9u@PointedEars.de> <6005521.MME42bj82n@PointedEars.de> <2814357.mXD5CvAbfT@PointedEars.de> <86oaabv18r.fsf@kwarg.de> Reply-To: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Trace: solani.org 1458388980 21089 eJwNwgkRwAAIAzBLjPeQQwf1L2G7JCyffMsz0oM/QIyQxekMlfT1rTFdzdMmqqd948RA5Ac/qhJG (19 Mar 2016 12:03:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.solani.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:03:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/4.14.2 X-User-ID: eJwNy8kBwDAIA7CVMFeyjiGw/wit/gpLZB/PSI+NvS0ml6ypMHBUDinX1ccA3Znnj4C1lWClqlmGv2CHmh9dVhYF Cancel-Lock: sha1:vz+HGa5hSvQf+jkoEK4mn8/Vvec= X-NNTP-Posting-Host: eJwFwYEBwDAEBMCVUE9+HBH2H6F3+EKj0wPhWCxHsqy1X0yPqZxYGppZXPHxq5XWi7O8fPwBJIYRdg== Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.javascript:30054 Herbert Kleebauer wrote: > On 19.03.2016 00:02, Matthias Wiehl wrote: >> Herbert Kleebauer writes: >>> JavaScript was introduced by and is a trademark of Netscape >>> (now Oracle). “JavaScript” was from 1996 to 2010 inclusive, by license agreement between Netscape Communications Corporation and Sun Microsystems, Inc. (Sun) in December 1995, a trademark of _Sun_, which had been acquired by Oracle Corporation (Oracle) in 2010, through which “JavaScript” has become a trademark of Oracle. [0a] (The legal successor to Netscape is not Oracle as your statement could be misunderstood to mean, but AOL; see below.) >>> Later the Standard ECMA-262 was created and there are many >>> implementations of this standard Correct. But note that “This ECMA Standard is based on several originating technologies, the most well known being JavaScript™ (Netscape Communications) and JScript™ (Microsoft Corporation).” [0b] >>> (including JavaScript). But even “JavaScript” does not in general refer to a single implementation of ECMAScript since more than a decade, and the implementation*s* that it would refer to differ from one another in their feature set (as shown by my research). >>> The commonly used name for all this implementation is "javascript". Wishful thinking. Instead, it is primarily used by people, most of them laymen, who do not know what they are talking about when using it (as shown by the very posting that I am just replying to), which inherently constitutes the majority of the people using it (since nobody can know about everything in detail, there are always more people who do not know about something than people who do). But this is a technical newsgroup; we must aspire here to be *correct* and *precise* instead of catering to the misconceptions and ambiguity of the general public. For it is never the general public that defines the proper meaning of technical terms, but the people employing the corresponding technology professionally. And should there be a *well-founded* disagreement about terminology among professionals, then it is not the place of the general public to decide which terminology is the correct one; it is not the place of the layman to tell the expert how they should name their things. You do not (reasonably) try to tell a Chinese how to pronounce Chinese properly either. >>> Therefore normally is written: >>> >>>>>> jpg >>>>>>