Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!news.teledata-fn.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <1950590.pCXgFyDL17@PointedEars.de> From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Reply-To: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Organization: PointedEars Software (PES) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 04:20:14 +0200 User-Agent: KNode/4.10.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Face: %i>XG-yXR'\"2P/C_aO%~;2o~?g0pPKmbOw^=NT`tprDEf++D.m7"}HW6.#=U:?2GGctkL,f89@H46O$ASoW&?s}.k+&. <525efa8b$0$9524$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1c4c66c2-fbaa-4c79-b151-c2ea527f7fad@googlegroups.com> <2867163.tXP2vnJDLC@PointedEars.de> <8df6e7b0-7eaf-4c74-9d53-eca08e821867@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 70 NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Oct 2013 04:20:16 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: f603aac1.newsspool2.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=FfZ\lgTh3J:Tia]Ho99G50A9EHlD;3Yc24Fo<]lROoR18kF Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote: >> > [...]Given that though, I do have some >> > misgivings to how well feedback and suggestions would be received and >> > integrated if this FAQ follows the feedback trend that the ES-Matrix >> > has [...] >> >> What about the ES Matrix? [...] > > More than once over the years I've submitted additions that never showed > up, for example the "\v" bug of older JScript implementations, the event > namespacing mechanism of JScript: "::" > , Sharp variables > in JavaScript (pre-ES3 through JavaScript 1.8.5), and others I've > forgotten. AISB, I would be very glad if I had gotten as many suggestions for the FAQ for comp.lang.javascript as I got for the ES Matrix. As you can see in the changelog, other people have submitted suggestions which were implemented. Maybe something was/is wrong with your suggestions. This may surprise you, but maintaining the ES Matrix is not what I do for a living. Neither is maintaining the FAQ for comp.lang.javascript. Those are pet projects I do in my limited free time. I do have a regular full-time job in the software industry. If you want a person to do for a living what I do in my free time, you will probably have to resort to crowdfunding. But consider this: Those whose daily job it were to maintain a document would be less likely to judge the quality of that document and contributions to it correctly because they must be lacking field experience in turn. In my thesis (which I submitted and defended in 2012 while working part- time) I had to focus on refining the test cases for the features that already existed, and on important new features specified in ECMAScript Edition 5.1 (which you could read in its translation into English, once it is finished, at the latest). Rest assured that any suggestions you have submitted via e-mail are still there, and will be considered if and as soon as possible (even more so as adding new features and testcases is comparably easy now because of the new database and backend UI). Any suggestions you have submitted in the newsgroup after 2012-04 that are not contained in follow-ups to my postings are unlikely to have been noticed by me in the first place because since then I have been boycotting Google Groups as they are acting irresponsibly, slowly destroying (the remains of) Usenet. Rather as proof of that it is possible that not even a thorough Google Groups search will turn up your earlier suggestions. (IIRC, I have told you that before.) Of the mentioned submissions, I only recall vaguely discussions about "\v". In general, I think I should focus on implementations, versions and features that are widely used (that is not to say that other features could not be considered with reduced priority; I do want the Matrix as complete as possible). As to JScript, it is not possible to provide test results for those features that are buggy in versions of implementations to which the current code is not backwards compatible, and due to the used methodology the possibility of arbitrary footnotes in the features table has been removed (and might need to be restored in some way). If you have any specific references to previous suggestions handy, or any new suggestions, I would be grateful if you posted them here or send them via e-mail. -- PointedEars, who should have been asleep hours ago Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.