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From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Reply-To: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <usenet@PointedEars.de>
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 16:42:33 +0200
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Subject: Re: Scroll position detection
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Joao Rodrigues wrote:

> On 27/05/2013 09:39, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Joao Rodrigues wrote:
>>> On 27/05/2013 06:48, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> Joao Rodrigues wrote:
>>>>> The W3C standard is pageYOffset:
>>>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/cssom-view/#dom-window-pageyoffset>
>>>>
>>>> When will you ever learn?
>>>>
>>>> | CSSOM View Module
>>>> |
>>>> | W3C Working Draft 4 August 2011
>>>> |
>>>> | […]
>>>> | Publication as a Working Draft does not imply endorsement by the W3C
>>>> | Membership. This is a draft document and may be updated, replaced or
>>>> | obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to cite
>>>> | this document as other than work in progress.
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> Contrary to what you claimed, the W3C standard is _not_ pageYOffset
>> because *there* *is* *no* *W3C* *standard* regarding such properties
>> (yet).  Also, that this *Working* *Draft* has not been updated for almost
>> two years does not bode well for it ever becoming a W3C standard.
> 
> Thomas, you are a very smart guy and you need not use fallacies to make
> believe you are always correct. Almost everything in W3C site is a
> Working Draft or a Recommendation:
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/#w3c_all>

The fallacies are yours.  A Working Draft and anything else with a status 
*other* than Recommendation is _not_ (yet) a W3C standard:

<http://www.w3.org/standards/about.html> p.

You have been told this several times before.  Yet you continue to claim the 
opposite of the truth.

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