Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!.POSTED.196.236.197.178.dynamic.wless.lssmb00p-cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch!not-for-mail From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript Subject: Re: new Date().toLocaleTimeString() sponned in Fall Creators Update. UL locale Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 03:50:39 +0100 Organization: PointedEars Software (PES) Lines: 42 Message-ID: <17050329.jDpi8q7seK@PointedEars.de> References: <9acafc2f-1bc7-442f-adb7-ee34368545a8@googlegroups.com> <49e9404e-ae0e-4e2c-ab90-bb1afd2b5409@googlegroups.com> <6dcb20f6-7e19-4cb9-b9d5-5f0e4bc7f073@googlegroups.com> <97b80ea7-d07e-49e3-aaa7-a4a167285f08@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Injection-Info: gwaiyur.mb-net.net; posting-host="196.236.197.178.dynamic.wless.lssmb00p-cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch:178.197.236.196"; logging-data="31480"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@open-news-network.org" User-Agent: KNode/4.14.2 X-Face: %i>XG-yXR'\"2P/C_aO%~;2o~?g0pPKmbOw^=NT`tprDEf++D.m7"}HW6.#=U:?2GGctkL,f89@H46O$ASoW&?s}.k+&. On 21/01/2018 16:56, Jon Ribbens wrote: >> On 2018-01-21, Evertjan wrote: >>> Jon Ribbens wrote on 21 Jan 2018 in >>> comp.lang.javascript: >>>> Ok, I'll meet you in Trafalgar Square on 1st June at at 3pm (GMT). >>>> At what time in UTC do you think I am saying I will be there? >>> 1500Z, >>> as you are stating a time in GMT, not a time-zone, >>> and a region [Trafalgar Square]. > > Armed Forces, aviation and maritime companies around the globe use the > NATO Letter Timezones, being "Z" (Zulu time or Zero meridian time) the > same as UTC+0 [1]. > > So if you say 1500Z, it means 3pm in UTC+0. > > […] > [1] The Web site you are citing contains dubious information in at least two respects. First, as we have discussed earlier, GMT is _not_ a timezone, but a standard time. This also applies to other standard times listed as “time zones”. Second, although “Zulu” is probably related to the NATO Alphabet, because it is that alphabet’s word for spelling the letter “Z”, it could be coincidental that it is also the time at the “zero meridian”. The military time zones are labeled eastwards with letters, starting with UTC+1 to receive the letter “A”, which makes the last timezone in that order to be UTC+0 and to receive the letter “Z” (it is claimed that “J” has been intentionally omitted for various reasons). The Web site gives the impression that this is not so, which may well be wishful thinking. See also: -- PointedEars FAQ: | | Twitter: @PointedEars2 | Please do not cc me./Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.