Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: programming...? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:47:39 -0500 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <5b01869b-a71c-44db-b6e5-e4afdd6c561e@googlegroups.com> <369426df-6367-4040-9799-dcf91f2bb1ba@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: PBuS014lhzVyHjLbXmo/ZQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:38064 On 2/21/2018 11:29 AM, Eric Douglas wrote: > On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 10:44:25 AM UTC-5, Kiwi User wrote: >> I think there's an element of MS lockin even there: to me, anyway, >> understanding make is an integral part of learning C, but aren't you >> stuck with Visual Studio if you use MS C, to say nothing of their >> revolting 'Hungarian' naming standards. They also used to have a rather >> nonstandard C library as well - is that now POSIX compliant? >> > > I assume you have to use Visual Studio to edit MS code (anything > .Net?)if you need the tools (from code complete, to right click and > jump to declaration or find references), otherwise editing files in > any text editor should work and there should be a command line > statement to compile. C/C++: Visual Studio Text editor and command line build Eclipse (yes - it integrated with MSVC++ toolchain) SharpDevelop C#: Visual Studio Text editor and command line build SharpDevelop >>> I'm not familiar with databases, but I can't imagine SQL being >>> the only one available for Windows. >>> >> Well, SQL Server is essentially a Sybase clone, so if you know one you >> probably can still claim to know the other. Access was horrid and I'm >> told, by people who know, that the equivalent member of the SQL Server >> family is no better and just as orphaned when it comes to DBA tools. Both >> Mysql and MariaDB run in Linux and so does PostgreSQL, so there are >> enough OS-agnostic RDBMS to make the OS question irrelevant. > > I'm not sure how much differences there are between SQL. Your basic > inner join stuff should work anywhere but stuff like Transact-SQL > functions have different syntax for different DBs. Basic SQL is the same. Many cross-DB API's are available (JDBC, ODBC, OLEDB, PDO etc.). But: * extensions to standard SQL * functions * SP's and UDF's * available data types * management etc. can vary quite a bit. Arne