Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Jigsaw: RedHat and IBM say no Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 16:24:39 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <8bbc34ba-7dc8-497d-8cfe-8d0db8e8cb22@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: PBuS014lhzVyHjLbXmo/ZQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:36580 On 5/2/2017 5:53 AM, lewbloch@gmail.com wrote: > Chris Riesbeck wrote: >> Just saw a news item that RedHat and IBM plan to vote against releasing >> Jigsaw for now. Details of the concerns here: >> >> https://developer.jboss.org/blogs/scott.stark/2017/04/14/critical-deficiencies-in-jigsawjsr-376-java-platform-module-system-ec-member-concerns >> >> I have no expertise in evaluating these concerns, but would hate to see >> some analog of the Python 2.7 / 3 bifurcation occur. Thoughts? > > Seems they're angry that the standard, on which committee they sat, > didn't just make their products the canonical implementation. There's > ample reason to suspect some disingenuity and self-interest behind their > protest. Jigsaw is very compatible with un-moduled Java applications. But Jigsaw is overlapping but not able to replace OSGI, so the OSGI guys have a problem until they have figured out how to make Jigsaw and OSGI coexist. Both JBoss and Eclipse are heavily invested in OSGI. Fair enough that they complain that they think they will get a problem. But OSGI is relative small part of the Java world. Arne