Path: csiph.com!news.redatomik.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject: Re: hash map
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:05:32 -0400
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Lines: 27
Message-ID: <od69kb$1mvd$3@gioia.aioe.org>
References: <9a86c6fb-ae40-4acd-902f-afff0ab60fd6@googlegroups.com> <208075f0-0022-4996-b2b7-a3b90f6c85a6@googlegroups.com> <25389b66-b30f-4076-8f8e-4bfeb91dbc6f@googlegroups.com> <od2ena$sf8$1@dont-email.me> <fe8a759e-1df6-4d5d-beb8-44e49ae00e83@googlegroups.com> <od2ifk$98s$1@dont-email.me> <8a53e56c-5877-4c31-976f-5802f926f44a@googlegroups.com> <od2koi$gie$1@dont-email.me> <1bcffbc0-a529-4185-87f2-8e1d66bf319d@googlegroups.com> <od2p1h$uu7$1@dont-email.me> <92da5574-f874-49a4-9a70-492a154f166e@googlegroups.com> <od3i84$i6i$1@dont-email.me> <od3m8o$1j99$1@gioia.aioe.org> <05ce1a1e-7040-4ba9-b3c2-eedf3b89646f@googlegroups.com> <Java-20170418151925@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
NNTP-Posting-Host: PBuS014lhzVyHjLbXmo/ZQ.user.gioia.aioe.org
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0
X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2
Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:36490

On 4/18/2017 10:21 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> writes:
>> On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 8:22:58 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> If one was to learn a simpler procedural language before going
>>> for a more complex object oriented language, then I would suggest
>>> Pascal not C.
>> I would suggest BASIC.  That's what we learned in 8th grade.
>
>   I teach object-oriented languages like C++, Java, C#, and
>   Python.
>
>   The way I do this, is to teach gradually incrementing
>   sub-languages.

That is another way.

>   Programs look like
>
> public final class Main
> { public static void main( final java.lang.String[] args )
>   { java.lang.System.out.println
>     ( 1+2*3 ); }}

But why not teach them to write Java that looks like Java!?!?

Arne