Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: A very dark day indeed :-( Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:55:11 -0500 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <960ef14f-1fa8-43df-aca9-c6425d65cb70@googlegroups.com> <30f0b573-b0b4-4d0d-ba73-c66e1742502d@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ANasIS7Js9OyLQwgloeBLQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:33743 On 2/9/2016 8:34 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: > =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= writes: >> Oracle is running a business, so they produce what customers want. > > A rational business produces what is estimated to produce > most profit or support their long-term strategic goals > (producing more profit in an indirect long-term way) and at > the same time fits into their business profile (Oracle will > not suddenly produce ice cream, even when there are indeed > many people who like ice cream.) > > But not all business are rational. Businesses are lead by > humans and a single human business leader sometimes might > have irrational / emotional reasons for some business > decisions or his decisions might be influenced by lack of > knowledge or false beliefs or ill-advising advisors and so on. That can in some cases drive single company decisions. But I can not see it drive industry decisions. > And look at Apple: Apple (iPod, iPhone, iPad) did /not/ hear > to what people want and then produces this. Instead it > created products and then made people want them. Before > there was an iPhone, nobody was able to say, »I want a > iPhone.« because they had no idea that such a thing could > exist. I don't think that is a complete accurate description. There were plenty of early smartphones attempts (Nokia Communicator, Windows Mobile, BlackBerry etc.). Apple increased an existing demand by creating a better product. > Before there was Google, people had no idea that > they want a search-engine with page rank and snippets on > the SERP. Again the demand for search engine was there. Google created a search engine that people liked better because it produced better results. >> Demand for Java on desktop and embedded in browser is very. > > So very very! I forgot a "low". Arne