Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!nntpspool01.opticnetworks.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Self-updating relationship Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 22:31:24 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <55E766BD.3060303@verizon.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: NIM2IeSPVd0kE3mU1mieXw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:69394 comp.lang.java.programmer:32535 On 9/4/2015 10:10 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote: > On 09/04/2015 07:45 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> On 9/4/2015 11:49 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote: >>> You're allowed limit your "core Java" to the >>> packages available within the JDK, if you like >>> but you cannot exclude the javafx packages from "Java SE". >> >> We sure can. >> >> A Java implementation can be fully Java SE compliant without >> JavaFX. >> >> And I think that in fact most Java 8 implementations besides >> reference implementation (Oracle) comes without. IBM certainly does. >> >> The above page is about "Java SE product". Java SE is a >> specification not a product. Oracle Java SE is a product and >> that does indeed contain JavaFX. > > Please point me to the Java SE specification. Language: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se8/html/index.html VM: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jvms/se8/html/index.html API: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/ Yes - you usually don't think about the latter as a specification. But read what it says. "This document is the API specification for the Java™ Platform, Standard Edition." And JavaFX is not included. Arne