Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeff Higgins Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Self-updating relationship Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 22:10:45 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <55E766BD.3060303@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 02:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="a78aad8b483612fbf45d18e918df0cca"; logging-data="17631"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18TxC0HbbGo3NQ+q1O93avu3KBKOmqmYwE=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.8.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:1+eO8z47/Me/67NQfWG6Cje5lno= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:69390 comp.lang.java.programmer:32534 On 09/04/2015 07:45 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 9/4/2015 11:49 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote: >> On 09/02/2015 05:46 PM, Eric Sosman wrote: >>> >>> It's worth noting that the javafx package is not part of "core >>> Java" (more formally, "Java SE"), but is an optional add-on called >>> JavaFX. (JavaFX is well-known as the technology that has made all >>> of AWT, Swing, SWT, Flash, and HTML5 obsolete. :) >>> >>> In other words, the machinery that makes the updates happen is >>> not "a Java feature" any more than GMP is "a C feature." >>> >> Another note of interest: >> From the "Oracle Java SE and Oracle Java Embedded Products" page >> >> >> Java SE includes: >> >> The Java Development Kit (JDK), >> including the JavaFX Software Development Kit (SDK), >> >> Java Runtime Environment (JRE), >> (Server and regular packages) >> >> JavaFX Runtime, >> >> JRockit JDK >> >> The javafx package is not part of the Java Development Kit (JDK). >> >> You're allowed limit your "core Java" to the >> packages available within the JDK, if you like >> but you cannot exclude the javafx packages from "Java SE". > > We sure can. > > A Java implementation can be fully Java SE compliant without > JavaFX. > > And I think that in fact most Java 8 implementations besides > reference implementation (Oracle) comes without. IBM certainly does. > > The above page is about "Java SE product". Java SE is a > specification not a product. Oracle Java SE is a product and > that does indeed contain JavaFX. > Please point me to the Java SE specification.