Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jerry Stuckle Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Microsoft Word as a Java-IDE Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 11:29:13 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <730p9dhn2rh5.rapzjjfevjie$.dlg@40tude.net> <55991afc$0$301$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 15:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="8b88f1819ae50b8afa97a5cef254b303"; logging-data="12363"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18NXrreNohq01F/udyW5BoJGhXRJOrsSk8=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:mFutAQrWhrYZD99R8/VfoJ2pDOA= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:31966 On 7/5/2015 8:47 AM, Eternal Hope wrote: > On 05/07/2015 12:54, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> On 7/5/2015 3:05 AM, Eternal Hope wrote: >>> On 04/07/2015 21:44, Joerg Meier wrote: >>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:20:20 +0100, Eternal Hope wrote: > > > >>> That's a fair point. >>> I can't find 'Stefan Ram' in the list of academics in either the math or >>> comp-sci departments at fu-berlin.de. >> >> He does not teach there. >> >> He teaches here: >> >> http://www.berlin.de/vhs-reinickendorf/index.php?m0=1&m1=4&m2=5§id=3&cat=142 >> > > Now that is absolutely fascinating. > > Two, short, 1 week courses to learn Java so that the student can (and I > quote directly from the translated course bumph) > > "develop their skills in order to apply Java skillfully in studies or > profession" > > So, become a skillful Java developer in two weeks from a standing start > for the low, low price of 238 Euros. Interestingly there doesn't seem to > be anything about code style! > > Gotta be a scam. Does anyone actually fall for this snake oil? > > Not a scam at all. I taught Java (as well as other courses like C and C++) in a week for corporations. These courses cost a lot more than $238 Euros, but the corporations happily paid because they got results. No, they were not expert programmers at the end of a week. But they did have the basics down and were productive. They also had enough information to have a good idea where to look for things they didn't know. It paid well, but I got tired of all the travel. It was fun for the first 10 years or so, but 75K+ air miles and 25+ weeks away each year wasn't much fun any more. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================