Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Sosman Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: elementary loops Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 08:26:33 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="858a9d65d95f4ea4d355bd116aa2cdbf"; logging-data="18006"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/uV0Bi10fr/Pfe5+eN9y5m" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:OTlt95JfZy+Te+uz4DXv3C9UJF0= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:31858 On 6/26/2015 7:39 AM, Marcel Mueller wrote: > On 26.06.15 11.26, Andreas Leitgeb wrote: >>>> { public static void main( final java.lang.String[] args ) >>>> { short i = -1; >>>> int j = -1; >>>> for( int k = 0; k < 65; ++k ){ i >>>= 1; j <<= 32; } >> >> The short i is promoted to int, then the MSB ("sign"-bit) zeroed, >> then converted back to short, where it's still -1 > > In this case the >>> operator is meaningless for short int and there is > no option to perform this operation except for emulating the behavior by > other bit functions or types. The same applies to byte as well. > Of course, this is only another side effect of the missing unsigned types. > Is this guaranteed by the language or just implementation defined? The former. The relevant bits of the Java Language Specification are - 15.26.2 "Compound Assignment Operators" - 15.19 "Shift Operators" - 5.6.1 "Unary Numeric Promotion" - 5.1.2 "Widening Primitive Conversion" - 15.16 "Cast Expressions" (implied by 15.26.2) - 5.1.3 "Narrowing Primitive Conversion" -- esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid "Don't be afraid of work. Make work afraid of you." -- TLM