Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder2.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:18:19 -0600 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:18:17 +0000 From: lipska the kat <"lipskathekat at yahoo dot co dot uk"> Organization: Trollbusters 3 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130308 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes References: <5yTqu.2639$oo4.861@fx02.iad> <52acd504$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <1Ymdndba6bj6HCjPnZ2dnUVZ8sKdnZ2d@bt.com> <9-5-programmers-20131221212008@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <9-5-programmers-20131221212008@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 36 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-hZzYkdNWoM9YDuNzuszfiqIPWVA6du86JV1hixBA9FSCtjAz9G8VsxGgFheypW1mPWuMyrYNFpfcdhb!bC1Di3/LdPtXcomkzfXHCjiR+W13qlTGsKRWIAnYVy1nhsTynFHfcZokntM9sGFSLjrskINa3UVY X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3263 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:27028 On 21/12/13 20:20, Stefan Ram wrote: > Tim Slattery writes: >> lipska the kat <"lipskathekat at yahoo dot co dot uk"> wrote: >>> I don't know any 9-5 developers so don't recognize the idiom '9-5 developer' >> I'm recently retired after working 40 years as a developer. My hours >> for the whole time were 8:15 - 4:45. Not exactly 9-5, but the same >> general idea, I think. Yes, there was overtime sometimes, but not a >> lot. > > To read an intriguing article about 9-5 programmers, you all have to > search the web for an article called »They write the right stuff«. Limitless resources, properly managed, can produce 'the right stuff' indeed. When you have strictly limited resources, manpower, time, money etc you have to fly by the seat of your pants. Bootstrapping a tightly funded and resourced startup is an exhausting, exhilarating and intensely rewarding experience. The real test is how long it lasts. Launch day is often the most intense experience but the real test was "was the business still running after 6 months, a year, two?" If you are still in business after two years then you can probably chalk it up as a limited success. By then most of the show stoppers have been found and fixed, you have a team in place and it's time to move on. 9-5 it isn't Big money it isn't, necessarily. (shares are nice though) Fun it most certainly is. -- Lipska the Kat©: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer, treacherous feline and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun GNU/Linux user #560883 - http://www.linuxcounter.net