Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: markspace Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Java SE and Java EE Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 09:40:09 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <84fabb27-5ff8-4bb0-86d5-5bf738590f70@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="9358cda03e1e0dfd3c4b757daa608707"; logging-data="12095"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+GqARwYSh5WlUw2dwjQ800FUObEVD2VjQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:8Ge09Dlgje2Luc5bS3+jCNApZzk= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:28655 On 6/4/2014 2:09 AM, Qu0ll wrote: > "markspace" wrote in message news:lmmg2b$g2h$1@dont-email.me... > >> Also, now adays, there's even more Javas than just Java SE and Java >> EE. Java SE now has three different profiles for embedded devices, >> because somebody still thinks they can beat Android. (Good luck.) > > Nothing to do with Android per se: it's all about IoT and Oracle trying > to position Java ME as the software platform for all connected devices > (many of which do not run Android). Hmm, true. Although I see all of the "small embedded" markets as essentially similar. If Oracle can make in-roads in devices even smaller than Android, perhaps Oracle can then leverage their way into larger devices. I think that's going to be difficult however. I'm honestly at a loss how they expect to make money on compact profiles, either now or later. I see compact profiles as gee-whiz capability with no business plan. Google takes a cut of app sales on Android -- that's a pretty solid business plan. Where's Oracle's equivalent on smaller devices?