Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Sosman Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: threadpool and ui paint Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 13:22:06 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 17:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="bd4e1cba8d8592bec5d5ed9e4537fbfd"; logging-data="6609"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18sPvgqBGGhjYYEFHdEnsCT" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:/ZAcaIADAG57b953JsEj2ldHuns= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:28457 On 5/13/2014 12:45 PM, markspace wrote: > > This is broken if Thing or Collection is modifiable. > > On 5/13/2014 5:10 AM, Eric Sosman wrote: > >> final Collection finished = ...; >> SwingUtilities.invokeLater(new Runnable() { >> @Override >> public void run() { >> for (Thing x : finished) { >> x.updateTheDisplay(); >> } >> } >> }); > > > The following would work, if you can guarantee that no Thing are being > changed while the invokeLater is running. Maybe use invokeNow instead > to make the update on the EDT synchronous. I think you mean SwingUtilities.invokeAndWait(). But yes: If the Thing or the collection of Things is being changed while other parts of the program are trying to capture "the" state of affairs, there'll be nothing but trouble. > final Collection finished = > Collections.synchronizedCollection( new Collection() ); > try { SwingUtilities.invokeNow(new Runnable() { > @Override > public void run() { > for (Thing x : finished) { > x.updateTheDisplay(); > } > } > }); > } catch( Exception ex ) {} > > However if you have another thread besides these two that is updating > Thing asynchronously then this fails. You must also synchronize the > Thing object itself in that case. I don't think using synchronizedCollection() helps here. It will ensure that individual actions on the collection are atomic, but will not atomize (?!) sequences of actions. In particular, you can still get a ConcurrentModificationException. > Without a thorough understanding of threading and the Java memory model > copying by rote is fraught with error. One shouldn't be doing this sort > of thing unless one is an expert, or you're just plain going to make > broken code. This is yet another motivation for dividing the Thing into a model and a view thereof: It becomes easier to ensure that multiple viewers always see the Thing in a consistent state, even if that state is mutable and mutating. -- Eric Sosman esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid