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From: Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: What's the best non-JVM native language to look at?
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On 01/20/2014 07:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 1/20/2014 6:30 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 01/20/2014 03:38 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 1/19/2014 8:04 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> On 01/19/2014 07:55 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>> On 01/19/2014 07:45 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>> ????
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect Martin Gregorie means this:
>>>>> <http://www.microsoftvirtualacademy.com/training-courses/windows-8-and-windows-phone-8-app-development>.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  From the presentation:
>>>> Platform-specific Features
>>>> Similar features with different APIs and implementations
>>>> Do not try to reuse code for these features
>>>> Some examples:
>>>> Application lifecycle (PLM)
>>>> Background processing
>>>> Tiles and toast notifications
>>>> Image/video capture
>>>> System services
>>>> App bar
>>>> Networking differences
>>>
>>> I did not watch it.
>>
>> Me neither.
>> I downloaded the slides for the first part of the presentation.
>> Then I would have been required to register before any more access. :(
>>
>>> But "Do not try to reuse code for these features" sounds like
>>> "the API is the same but you should do things differently".
>>
>> Actually, the point was that these APIs are different and here
>> is what you can do to maximize code reuse.
>>
>> One of the slides promises:
>> <quote>
>> We are on the path to
>> Windows and Windows Phone
>> convergence
>> </quote>
>
> "these APIs are different" is not a very technical description. It
> is even close to me misleading.

I guess short of registering for the course and watching 4-6 hours
of video you could download the first section of slides, as I've done.
>
> MS invented a new API to be shared between Windows 8 and
> Windows Phone 8.

MS has "invented" a lot of stuff. They've also produced
two platforms, Windows 8 and  Windows Phone 8, as you've noted.

>
> Exactly what was requested in this thread.
>
> Windows Phone did not get the full version in 8.0.
>
> People that has counted say that WP 8 WinRT has
> 2800/11000 of what Win8 WinRT has (measured in
> public members of the classes).
>
> MS has also stated that they will increase that in 8.1
> (already released for Win, soon to be released for WP)
> and further increase it in 9.

They've also produced a 4-6 hour video course that:
 >>
After this presentation, you should have a good
understanding of:
Major similarities and differences between Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8
How to build apps for both Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 with maximum
code reuse
This presentation does not cover:
How to write a Windows Phone 8 app
How to write a Windows 8 app
A way to write apps that automatically run on both platforms (not possible)
<<

>
> But some classes may never be in WP. I am skeptical about
> namespaces like:
> * Windows.Devices.Enumeration.Pnp
> * Windows.Devices.HumanInterfaceDevice
> * Windows.Graphics.Printing
>
> Arne
>
>
>